Nordstream 2 pipeline construction continues - Germany denies Trumps demands

You talk about your mother.

Germany is a leading weapon producer. Rheinmetall, Thyssen Krupp, Heckler & Koch.

You have 40% non whites. We have 4.5% non germans. Since 2016 oir border is locked. Amd you are on ihmore now. People with such dramatic bad DNA compared to myself bore me.

 

If Danzig was really a free city, then it should have been allowed to return Germany, which is what the majority of people living in Danzig wanted at the time.

The treaty of Versailles is perhaps one of the stupidest treaties in history. You sure you want to use it in support of your argument?

It worked out badly for both sides. Poland suffered under decades of brutal occupation as a direct result of WWII. So I ask again: Was it really worth it? Did millions of people need to die just so Poland could maintain its dubious claim over one measly city that didn't even want to be part of Poland at the time?

 

Do you admire the national socialists?

 

There is no reason to believe Russia would do that, especially now that we live in the nuclear age.

 

You are asking me if the war against Nazi aggression was worth it. Yes, it was definitely worth it.

 

Absolutely not. I am opposed to both nationalism and socialism. So from my perspective, national socialism might be the worst ideology ever created. But my feelings about national socialism are neither here nor there. What matters here is the practicality of Polish obstinacy over Danzig. I keep asking you if it was worth all that trouble to defend Poland's dubious claim to Danzig and you will not answer. Is that because you really cannot defend it? Or it is because you need time to think of something?

 

So defending Poland's dubious, unenforceable claim over one measly city was worth the cost of millions of lives, including the invasion and occupation of Poland itself. That is your position on the matter?

 

I wasn't asking you I was asking Sobo. He's a German.

 

I couldn't tell because you did not use the quote feature.

 

My position on the matter is the cost of the war in treasure and lives to defeat Hitler and Nazi aggression was worth it. Poland was part of that.

 

Please explain why millions of people dying in a devastating world war was better than simply letting Danzig return to Germany.

 

Poland's military is equal or superior to Germany's in most areas.

Men in arms Germany 210,000 Poland 185,000
Aircraft Germany 698 Poland 405
Fighter Aircraft Germany 92 Poland 99
Tanks Germany 543 Poland 1,065
Navy assets Germany 81 Poland 83

 

Because Hitler was a liar He said after Sudetenland that he had no more territorial desires in Europe. A few months later he takes over the rest of Czechoslovakia. A few months after that he is demanding Danzig. Get it?
You stand up to a bully or he will continue to oppress you. You don't have to Einstein to be understand this.

 

Yea, because Poland is one of the biggest US welfare cases in Europe. And because Germany's ability to field a military was severely restricted by the post-WWII paradigm. If Germany had the will, they could easily surpass Poland's heavily subsidized military. Surely you do not deny that?

 

What a nonsense about Russia invading Germany without NATO! What for? It is just the pretext for the US to further occupy Germany.

 

As I said, Germany's primary concern was creating a buffer between themselves and Soviet Russia. My question has always been: What difference does that make to America? Why should the average American care about what happens in the Sudetenland or Prague or Danzig? More importantly, why should Americans have to die in order to resolve the petty and interminable squabbling of Europeans? Wasn't the entire point of the American revolution to liberate ourselves of our connection to Europe and its endless wars and intrigues? As long as Germany wasn't attacking America, then why should we take sides? Why not just do what our founding fathers did and remain neutral while profiting off of both sides, just like the intelligent Swiss did?

 

Right, vis. The US is not going to allow Germany to do anything of the kind even. No one in Germany in a position of responsibility is thinking of making a war in Poland. Its just ridiculous.

 

I don't consider you an authority on this subject. I don't find your argument so far to be very compelling. You haven't displayed much insight into either Modern European history or American history. You think Poland ought to roll over and play dead for Hitler but seem to approve of America resisting British domination. You approve of bullies as long as they aren't bullying you, is that it? Anyway its not very interesting really.

 

You need to read a little history. The US is the only reason Russia did not swallow all of Germany after WW2. NATO is the only reason that the USSR didn't absorb many more countries during the cold war.

 

You must give a **** because you are attempting to deny your country did it.

 

I notice you ignore the fact that Hitler was exterminating Jews in Germany and continued to do so in Poland so I guess you are fine with that.

 

Do you still live in 1945? Cold war finished when Warsaw Pact and Soviet Union collapsed. Russians moved away from Germany and americans still stay there. What for?

 

Not to worry. A few more posts like this and I won't bother with you again.

 

I think he knows all this and that's why he goes through such absurd antics to convince others of an illusion he wishes were so

 

That was near the end of the war. Our disagreement is over Germany near the beginning of the war.