North Korea threatening to attack Guam

So rational they were not ... please investigate for you own, if you are interested, about NATO exercise "Able Archer" and the USSR reactions on it! This was minimum as close to become a nuclear war as the Cuba crises was!

 

What the hell are you going on about! The nuclear weapons based in the UK were US controlled on US bases.

As for your post, what has that got to do with my post - are you denying the cold war happened; are you denying the scare mongering warnings of placing bed sheets over dining tables and hiding underneath them; are you denying the delivery of "the how to stay safe when a nuclear bomb in dropped on your head" booklets; are you denying that the Cuban crisis was a scary time for some people; So all in all, do you just like to post irrelevant crap?

 

Every time the "Old Right" is rattling with the sabers against someone who is not following Washington's will and all too often they cause chaos and thousands of killed US soldiers for nothing, like the last one from Texas and his Bagdad adventure tour!

 

America's elected choice was Hillary, Trump was the choice of a weird arcane ritual that was adopted 237 years ago to keep slaveholders happy.

Predictability and coherence are no guarantee of sanity. Stalin was possibly the most predictable and coherent megalomaniac who has ever lived. His insanity was so well-thought out that one of the largest and most powerful nations on Earth agreed with it for several years and many people still do to this day

 

Actually there was rational thinking just as there is now

The Germans, Japanese and Americans started work on the atomic bomb at about the same time and America got there first

The Soviet Union stole the atomic secrets from America after WWII and that was the beginning of the Cold War

An event that could not have been prevented

But the soviets did not want to die and neither did we so the Cold War remained cold for the most part.

 

That shows a profound ignorance of civics

Trump won the election not hillary

And he won for all the right reasons both constitutionally and politicially

 

Stop and think

We can continue to put diplomatic and limited economic pressure on kim

But that will take time and he is close to reachiing the US with nuclear missles now.

Once he has those missles there will be no way to stop him from using them

So the least loss of innocent life happens now before it goes that far

 

I agree that there is rational thinking by those that are in the background that will control what will actually happen. The two main players in the spotlight have little control on what will happen but their rhetoric will cause problems for those who are trying to reach a diplomatic agreement.

In the meantime here is the UK government "Protect and Survive" broadcast. To think that it was supposed to be serious advice:


and here is the last booklet delivered to every home (there were pamphlets also delivered in the years before):
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4319466/How-survive-nuclear-war-1980-Government-leaflet.html

 

I don;t recall Able Archer and have not looked it up

But war didnt happen even though the US did not back down as progressive are demanding we do now

When reagan introduced medium range missles into europe the russians and progressives in europe went nuts

They marched, they demonstrated and they threatened

But reagan stood by his decision

 

To the extent that trump cannot prevent kim from launching missles at Guam I agree

But the decision about how to respond will be trump's decision

 

lol rubbish. Both the British and the French had their own nuclear weapons, and they also had their own nuclear use policies that varied from the U.S's, which of course is to be expected since those countries faced a more dangerous existential reality re a Warsaw Pact invasion. You clearly don't know what the hell you're talking about, as usual, speaking of posting 'irrelevant crap', and throwing in off-topic gibberish about 'booklets' and 'Da Cubans N stuff' merely make that obvious, hoping to divert attention away to something else. Go troll somebody as ignorant as yourself with your spam postings.

 

I go by the conclusion ...who is in the white house won the election. Hillarys only white house bits are picket fences...

 

lol more rubbish, and another attempt at diversion from having no genuine rebuttals of anything. Did you and 'Truth' here go to the same Commie summer camps as kids?

Your ilk actually think we're somehow obligated to appease vermin who threaten to nuke us, and are you're dumb enough to try and sell the idiocy that Trump is the aggressor. lol what a hoot; go back to Propaganda School and learn how to not to sound like some retarded mass murderer writing a diary on death row.

 

Sure, that he has such missiles is a threat towards the US, but the important point is a) that the US can defend itself against it via their anti-missile systems (if fully successful or not is another topic) and b) will Kim them use without attack of the US on him, means he will start a war?

The little mad man in NK is for sure not really rational, otherwise couldn't all the other things not explained to be rational, but is he really suicidal?
What I mean is that as far as we can discuss if he is allowed to have such systems or not in general, means has any other country the right to dictate such things to another country or not, we have simply the same situation of cold war issue towards USSR again, but in a smaller scale.
The problem is that the "not USA liking part of the world" had learned latest in 2003 that they are only safe for any US intervention, if they are nuclear armed or having another world power behind them. Here with NK we have both given and sorry to say, but the US can nothing do against this aside economic pressure and full embargo if not wanting to be the aggressor who started a nuclear war!
But for this economic pressure and embargo is China needed and most necessary, but China is no Banana country and has huge economic and military power too. So this will be a full pred pro quo issue with China, because China's help and full help is not for free for the USA! So, isn't Trump not calling himself the "deal maker"? So time for him to make it with China!

 

lol, one brain washed Old Righty more who switched off brains and for whom is the so called left guilty for everything! By the way, I am at least conservative, but one who use the organ called brain and not Propaganda BS. Are you too?

 

That is an old wives tale

There is no guarantee that the US could knock down even a single nuclear missle airmed at California

Maybe we could or maybe not

You ask would kim use nuclear weapons if he had them knowing that the US is more powerful?

I say yes

If he is willing to start a war by firing missles at Guam which is something only a lunatic would do then he would attack the US maiinland also

 

Seriously

Liberals are worried that kim will attack Guam but not worred that he would attack the US?

Thats really sticking their heads in the sand

 

That is unless the Chinese are held responsible. Changes the ball game.

 

Coulda, shoulda woulda. Classic liberal response. Trump still LMAO won. Get over it or get some help.

 

Old wives tell often a truth and have the experience to know it better as the younger folks, eh?

Depending to the US military ... let me say propaganda ... they could every single missile shot down. But I agree that there is no guarantee for it and it is not impossible that a missile hits!

I would say No, because he is not wanting suicide with this silly issue here, but wanting to be taken serious and so coming in a much stronger (and also from China more independent) position in international stairs. That this is a gambling with matches in a petrol store is clear... and can went wrong badly too!

Willing to start means nothing, because the USA is since 70 years willing to nuke Moscow away, which is still targeted by the USAF ... as is Washington by the Russians too.

As I told previously, this here is more a smaller 2.0 version of cold war acting and behavior at least, but for the US it is inacceptable that a small and since founding hostile country like NK has maybe a somehow comparing ability as the old center of evil = USSR as it was rated by Reagan to be!

It is lost on the one hand as with these revolver duels in the Wild West, means who first moves wrong has lost. On the other hand, the permant threat is the one that stands, but only gets hot when de pure is too much in the way of the other or even attacking him, or thinking that an attack is immediate.

 

Its been suggested that china will attack the US if we attack north korea

A puppet chinese newspaper publiched a threat from the chinese governent this morning that seems to say the chinese are going to let kim stay in power and continue his march toward war

Up to now I have been praying tor the South Koreans and our soldiers stationed there

Now I think the whole world is at risk thanks to our enemies in peking

 

I have yet to see any "liberal" state that they "are worried that kim will attack Guam but not worred that he would attack the US".

If any missiles are fired at Guam (or the US) then that is an act of war. If a missile is fired into the Pacific a 'significant' distance away from any island and as long that it does not cross anyone's airspace, then is that not their right as would be the case for any other country testing their missiles

 

Ehm ... that he can reach with his missiles Guam is a reality. That he can hit Hawaii is a same reality (but didn't worry the righties when this was a news), but that he can reach US soil on Western Coast and maybe area farer like Denver is maybe true, but questionable.

 

Maybe so

But the toothless old hags have no idea what our missle defense system is capable of so don't cast your fate with them

 

Baloney, fat boy has made multiple direct threats against us. He keeps claiming we are committing acts of war on him. Maybe you'd prefer if we gave him a hug instead?