North Korean working on Russian World Cup stadium dies

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  1. litwin

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    Muscovy is synonym to the word - Slavery. new its officially, Muscovy uses slaves from North Korea, Question: will Muscovy lose 2018 World Cup to the civilized world?

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    https://www.usatoday.com/story/spor...g-on-russian-world-cup-stadium-dies/93880504/

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    The Slaves of St Petersburg

    Josimar can reveal that at least 110 North Koreans have worked at the Zenit Arena in St Petersburg, one of the venues for the 2018 World Cup Finals. International experts describe the workers from North Korea as both slaves and hostages. One North Korean worker was found dead in a storage container outside the stadium.

    Text: Håvard Melnæs
    Translated by: Lars Johnsen
    Interpreter: Artem Filatov
    Photos: Denis Sinyakov and Sergey Grachev


    St Petersburg, Russia
    The huge park awaiting anyone who steps outside Krestovsky Ostrov metro station is split down the middle by a wide and paved avenue. Zenit Arena is located on the park’s far end, two kilometres away. It has cost 1.5 billion dollars and has taken 11 years to build and is still not finished. It has been a site of systematic abuse of migrant workers, slave-like conditions, corruption and death.

    Lined along both sides of the park, are refreshment kiosks, caravans and merry-go-rounds. A sharp wind cuts through the fog. This is a popular park for strolls. It is a Sunday in February 2017, but hardly anybody is out walking.

    Chaos and corruption
    In 2006, long before Russia had even bid for the right to host the 2018 World Cup, Zenit St Petersburg, one of Russia’s biggest clubs, decided to build a new stadium. The much-loved, but outdated Petrovsky Stadium had been built in the 1920s. The new Zenit Arena was going to be Zenit St Petersburg’s new fortress. The plan was that the club would move into their new home in December 2008.

    In mid-March 2017, the arena is still not finished. The electrical wiring is vulnerable, cracks in the concrete are visible – which lead to water leaks – and the ground underneath the pitch vibrates. Documents provided to Josimar show that Russia’s security agency (FSO) had 22 notifications after an inspection in January 2017."http://www.josimar.no/artikler/the-slaves-of-st-petersburg/3851/

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    World Cup 2018: Fifa admits workers have suffered human rights abuses
    • Gianni Infantino admits North Koreans worked at St Petersburg stadium
    • Fifa president sent letter to Nordic FAs after they expressed concern
    "https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/may/25/fifa-world-cup-2018-workers-human-rights-abuses
     
  2. litwin

    litwin Well-Known Member

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    "North Korea has come up with a new way to bring cold hard cash into its isolated country: export North Korean workers to slave away in the Siberian forest (often without telling them they're no longer in North Korea)"
     
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    Illegal immigrant died on work. From a heart attack. Wow. Can you imagine? An illegal immigrant in a country with longest borders in the world.

    In 2016.

    And article with a loud name from some obscure football magazine.

    And a video from 2011.

    And an article about FIFA being concerned.



    All mixed together, steered and thrown as a solid chunk to forum users. No surprise almost nobody actually reads this section of forum nowadays.
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Leave it to Litwin to want Russia to stop employing people from North Korea so they can starve to death. He's so kind hearted.

    You can forget about it Litwin. Unlike you and your kind, there is no way Putin will allow sanctions on the North Korean people. They have even established a ferry route now to facilitate them in entering Russia to work.

     
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    from today
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    The Fifa president, Gianni Infantino, has admitted there have been human rights abuses of workers involved in the construction of the arena in St Petersburg due to host matches in next year’s World Cup. In a letter to the presidents of four Nordic football associations, which the Guardian has seen, Infantino also acknowledged that some men from North Korea, whose working conditions are “often appalling”, were deployed to work at the Zenit Arena in St Petersburg.

    The presidents of the Swedish, Danish, Norwegian and Icelandic FAs wrote to Infantino raising their concerns last week, following in-depth reportage by the Norwegian football magazine Josimar, which highlighted dreadful working conditions at the St Petersburg site. The article alleged that accommodation for the North Korean and other workers was in crowded storage containers outside the stadium, and cited local reports that a North Korean man was found dead in one of the storage containers, having suffered a heart attack."
    https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/may/25/fifa-world-cup-2018-workers-human-rights-abuses
     
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    That's pretty sick...outsourcing and employing North Korean people as slaves
     
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    " Unlike you and your kind, there is no way Putin will allow sanctions on the North Korean people" so you are Ok with slavery ? but you are orthodox turks will never be changed, you guys have had in you hands all slave business in Porta , right?
     
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    VICE did great job here, slavery in Muscovy year 2017
     
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    Ah hmm. We do read it. Ive called this poster out before on anti Russian propaganda yes?

    That letter from the FIFA President is more than concern its a borderline condemnation. That's some strong verbiage from him addressing the host country of his next World Cup!

    This actually has some merit and I wonder how many NKs who admittedly are probably just working to send money home.. I wonder just how many are being taken advantage of by Russian big business

    I'm not throwing stones America does it every day to illegal immigrants but I seriously doubt even our Oligarchs would be so brazen as to have them working on a World Cup venue in piss poor conditions and bad health
     
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    ...a-and you just swallowed his narrative. Well, bon appetite.
     
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    Uh-huh, right. On the object that is connected to next World Cup is very so conveniently found dead a some sort of illegal North Corean immigrant, and turns out there been used "slave labor". In RF. With all the numberless, experienced workers, with gasterbeiters from Middle Asia after all, a man from North Corea. Out of all places, out of all times, it is found on building sight of the stadium for the World Cup of 2018, that been in construction for over a decade, just a year before the actual Cup. Such a luxurious convenience, that only happens before Eurovision, Olympics and such..

    Not gonna happen. This Cup will be housed in RF, and that's final.
     
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    If the complaints were coming from the N. Korean government maybe then people should pay them heed, but since it's the propaganda outlet the Guardian, only an idiot would pay it heed.

    Notice they used the word
    'alleged' which means no one saw those conditions they are writing about ...so its just another one of their brainwashing lies to make people believe something which doesn't exist.

    If the Guardian had any integrity they wouldn't be trying to ruin Russia's games the way they tried to ruin the Olympic Games at Socchi, or try to stop them from employing N. Koreans who need the work.

    I recall Franklyn Graham of Samaritan's purse broadcasting from North Korea and begging the American people to pressure their government to release food so the N. Koreans wouldn't starve.

    Shame on you Litwin! You've reached a new low.

     
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    Well not even going to quote you two. Either the letter is authentic and there are serious labor issues or not. I believe there are.

    Whats happened here is you both got played by the OP on.. in the big scheme of the world what we call back home " small potatoes"

    You both rushed in and vociferously lambasted the OP out of reflex since 90% of what he posts is pure fiction and bias.

    But.. There's a little truth to this OP methinks. I certainly don't find Russian contractors above using some cheap or slave labor ( made slaves by their own government) not Russia.

    I think our Russian posters or sympathizers would be much better served by saying.. You know what let me look into it. Maybe some big business got greedy and are taking advantage? This way it further delegitimizes the OP thread creator for future posts that almost certainly will be pure fiction.

    I seriously seriously doubt Putin is sitting in his office chuckling about how his government is taking advantage of laborers. Anywhere. He has bigger fish to fry.

    Perspective folks. Perspective /grin
     
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    Do you have any idea what was going on in the American media to keep people from going to the Olympic Games? The announcers kept saying it wouldn't be safe and some even said they wouldn't attend because there might be a terrorist attack.

    Then they began mocking the accommodations even though they were praised afterwards by the athletes as being the best of any Olympic Games. I believe it was the Guardian that kept showing pictures of construction sights to undermine the conditions at Socchi.

    To add insult to injury because Vladimir Putin wouldn't bow to Washington's wishes, they had the coup in Kiev during the games when Putin was pre-occupied and couldn't leave. They even showed dignitaries on TV from Germany, Poland, the US, and other nations attending and encouraging the protesters at Maidan.

    The Guardian didn't stop the propaganda after the games though. They even went so far as to take pictures of the winter resort in the summer, and the summer resort in the winter to show how empty Socchi was.

    Now to keep people from going to the World Cup, the BBC had a whole program exaggerating about Russian hooliganism... which is humorous when you consider it's the British that have the reputation for hooliganism.
     
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    I don't accept anything posted by Litwin, because the Guardian like the BBC uses words like 'alleged', 'it's considered to be', 'it might be', 'it's assumed', 'they believe that', 'it's probably' ... so as to impress into peoples minds something that might be far from the truth. It's a brain washing technique and the British are experts at it.

    I'm curious about one thing though, what firms are the Korean workers working for? Could they be Chinese firms? I know that Russia always used Turkish construction firms in the past... even at Socchi.
     
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    Well his narrative and VICE doco... part 1 to be precise :D

    still think it's sick
     
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    That's nothing new...former CCCP was a giant slave labor camp!
     
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    It's true, salaries were never higher than 35$. In 1991 , 60% didn't have running, hot water.east of Moscow didn't see meet only caned one. Still they think that sovok was N1 in the world
     
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    Honestly Litwin...

    Illegal workers are not Western issue only and also not that they work under awful circumstances as lawless People too.
     
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    What's about North Korean slaves in Siberia ?
     
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    Yu know ... Kim in NK is a strange man, maybe he sold some of the opposition or those who didn't cheer him enough as god to some Oligarchs?
     
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    Litwin, you lie here. Punkt.
     
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    well this story is not about Kim, but about other dictator Putler , they both use slaves and this is unacceptable, and world cup ´d be taking away from the Kremlin kleptocracy
     
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    no, your sovok brain lies to you, tell me which salaries had your father in 1986? or 91
     
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    My father was an electronics engineer in 1986. He got something inbetween 200 and 250 rubles. The students got a stipend at the University around 40-60 rubles at that time (depending on the performance), that was about 50 USD (official exchange rate). So I have no idea where did you take average 35 USD as a salary.
     

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