Northern Ireland diagnoses first coronavirus case

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  1. Boosewell

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    I'd be lying if I said anybody cared about Northern Ireland, tbh, nobody from Northern Ireland or Wales seems to be that worldly or interesting to ever wind up in a place like China so of course for covid-19 to come to NI or Wales, it had to have a bunch of grease balls (Italy, I'm talking about you) to spread that around some place Ryan Air/Easy Jet or Jet To Holidays etc go.
     
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    There is nothing wrong with the Italians having the flu. All the baristas at the local Cafe Nero are wearing masks and the lads are offering to tuck them up in bed and a good time is being had by all.

    But at the end of the day it is just the fvcking flu and I want some real news, not a load of bollocks about how the Taigs and Prods could not harvest the Semtex crop because they have come down with the Peking Pox
     
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    Covid-19 is a coronavirus, not the flu.
    I don't see no flu knocking billions off the worth of an economy like I see Covid-19 has, and nobody it seems knows what's going to happen next with Covid-19.

    Despite the establishment of Covid-19 in Italy and the need to contain, isolate and quarantine; I see the EU not closing borders just because it's the EU, and for the rest of the year, this applies to UK.
    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020...n-coronavirus-cases-jump-200225215600060.html

    What would it take to close borders in the EU?

    Not politics, not science.
     
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    Scotland has its first case too in my area. I saw someone wearing a face mask today....but only one!!!!!
     
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    It just dawned on me yesterday Covid-19 could stand for
    Corona Virus December 2019.
     
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    Only one so far Alexa but who can tell what the future will hold?

    The English have a long history of exporting problems to Scotland for a trial run and Coronavirus looks like being the medical version of the Poll tax, albeit with extra snot.
     
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    Don't know about the D but you are right about the 19
     
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    My grandson who is at primary school said a girl had come to school in a mask and they all guessed it had come to our area.
     
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    I guess that is it.

    I was going to Edinburgh on business next week, but by that time the plague carts will be blocking Leith Walk so I will give it a miss.
     
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    ...or she had an outbreak of acne....

    I think the acne is more serious....major crimp on your social life...oozing puss rather than the sniffles...
     
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    I was going to go to Venice in February (on account of Brexit and some cash I'd saved)...
    I was thinking of going the week after Valentine's Day for a weekend or something, and I was looking at tickets and hotels the week leading up to Valentine's.

    I'm glad I didn't go, now.
     
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    It isn't flue. it is far more contagious than the flue and whereas the flue death rate is between 0.1 and 0.01% the death rate of this probably being between 1-4%. The 1918 Spanish Flue death rate was under 2%. It is expected 80% of us will get it.

    It is mutating - into what we do not know. The people in China are still not working so it looks like they may be telling porkies about their numbers. Scotland is expecting 4% of the population to need hospital care. Does not sound like much to me if 20% are supposed to need it so I am guessing they mean at one time. This according to one person I watched is far too many for any health service to cope with. Apart from economic the major concerns are it mutating into a more virulent strain and hospitals being overwhelmed resulting not only in more deaths of people with the virus but also those who do not have the virus and others with non life threatening health problems not getting medical care.
     
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    Too young for that. From how my grandson described it though she was using a surgical mask. This will help her not to spread the infection to others but will not help her not to get the infection. You need a N95 mask to offer some protection against the virus.
     
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    I think if you want to be safe head off to Tristan Da Cunha and hide up in the mountains....that should do it....
     
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    Sounds good but I hear it is full up. The Antarctic is the only safe continent which does not have it now! We have another TWO. That will be ten kids wearing face masks. The good bit is that primary kids don't seem to get it badly but can spread it so if their parents keep giving them medical masks they will not be spreading it when they do get it. Germany is really getting off on this. Ahead of France now with 244 to Frances 212. What I don't understand is how high Italy's death rate is compared to South Korea's.

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries
     
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    In order to know the death rate you would need to know the number actively infected plus seroconverted. That is impossible[/Quote][/QUOTE]
     
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    Good point. We can only make a guess based on those we know. From that at the moment it is 80% no major problem. 15-20% need hospital care and about half of those who are diagnosed severe/critical die. That is how it has been up till now. It does not however do what virus's usually do, hit the youngest as well as the most frail and that is something to be very grateful for. I seem to remember hearing that in the Spanish flue the people who were most vulnerable to it were young healthy adults.
     
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    It’s the Kimchi. Nothing gets past kimchi....
     
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    You could be right. I am not sure it would be to my taste but look at the facts. South Korea over 5 and a half thousand infected and only 35 deaths whereas Italy just under 3000 with the virus and 79 deaths. I have heard though that South Korea is grabbing everyone they can catch so it may be that most of them are in the early stage or it could be that Italians smoke. The virus is very harsh on smokers. It seems to be taking off now. We have 85 and everyone is just getting loads more. Be interesting to see what it is like in a few days. The Johnson has apparently decided not to tell where newly found people are. At the moment they hardly tell at all. Just the name of a county or something so I am not sure how he could tell less. Apparently he was scared to talk about it as he thought he would terrify everyone,. I didn't see it. Was he as bad as he expected?
     
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    Many thousands die from complications of run of the mill respiratory viruses every year.
    Our ICUs and medical floors are filled with them every year, especially Jan-April
     
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    Yes I am sure they are. However we already know that this virus is far more infectious than flue and that it kills far more. It is also changing. The 1918 one was mild to begin with and then changed but even it arguably did not have the death toll this one is expecting. The main concern apart from economic is that our health services will be overrun so that there will not be care for a great many people who need it either with the virus or something else and that could cost a lot of lives. Good care during the serious/ critical phases is essential for saving lives. At the moment it is expected it will get worse until May/June and then less people will be infected.
     
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    hell Italy has gone up to 107 deaths since I wrote post 21.
     
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    More Infectious? Influenza spreads around the world like wildfire as do most viruses.
    Most respiratory viruses are not confirmed serologically so we dont know the death rate.
    Also we only know the rate of those who show up in the hospital critically I'll. Most any critically I'll pneumonia patient would have a 1-4% mortality, irrespective of virus type
     
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