NRA chief calls gun ownership a 'fundamental human right,' rejects calls for new restrictions

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  1. James California

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    ~ Some still think that Trump-O is a Russian agent ... :blankstare:

    • Rep. Ocasio-Cortez has sponsored 29 bills and amendments. None of her bills passed the House of Representatives controlled by her fellow Democrats. Only two of her amendments passed .
     
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    Who said otherwise?

    I support regulation not ending gun ownership.
     
  3. Kal'Stang

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    I see you're still making ridiculous arguments.
     
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    Or we can do like many other nations have done and implement sensible gun regulation that makes sure that people that want a gun can get one but the people at risk cannot.

    The idea that we just don’t have enough bullet proofed doors or armed people is absolutely imbecilic.
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Under attack would be advocating their freedoms be taken away — like they frequently do — saying their beliefs don’t make sense isn’t an attack.

    So yes, I will scoff at them as I mock them.
     
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    When Liberal Democrats OUTLAW! Guns, only OUTLAW'S will have Illegal GUNS, because they don't give a **** about Democratic Laws. Don't be a Sheep in a crime ridden violent world of Wolves created by the DUMBOCRATS.
     
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    Would you be willing to allow the same restrictions you want for guns to be used for voting? Speech? Press? ANY Right?
     
  8. James California

    James California Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    ~ Doing a better job of enforcing the laws currently on the books would be a good start.
     
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    TheAngryLiberal Banned

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    And you're defending a principle that allows Law abiding American citizens to be the most unarmed sheep against illegally armed Lunatics that Democrats support releasing into society with their catch and release, soft on crime revolving door policies. When Democrats get serious about procecuting Criminals and taking THEIR Guns first, then come talk to us.
     
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    Voting is highly regulated

    You have to be registered, significantly in advance in many states. It is regulated and able to be done only at very tightly controlled locations and only by eligible persons.

    Speech and the press are also regulated and controlled to varying degrees.

    The second amendment also starts with “a well regulated”. It also goes into simple possession alone — it doesn’t say that the government cannot ban the manufacture of or criminalize the ownership of ammo.

    The courts have already ruled that restrictions on the type of “arm” are completely constitutional.
     
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    There is currently no rules on the books in several states about secondary purchases.
     
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    I suppose it be because your narrative would be ridiculous if you had :)

    But have it your way

    Look up Arms

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    Nymber 1. See also SMALL ARMS
     
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    Yah it’s under another definition because it’s not the same.
     
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    Natural rights are rights that you have that are innate, that is yours prior to any government (what governments grant are "privileges").

    How would you not have a legitimate right to lethal self-defense in a state of nature?
     
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    There is no innate right to vote, sit on a jury, take your case before an independent court, these are the privileges of living within a government and our system differentiates between inherent rights and rights granted by government. Our right to lethal self defense is the former.
     
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    Ya ya. When the 2cd was written it was all another definition, they were talking small arms too.. SoK, that why the SC never budges on the meaning of the issue, over zealous, hyperbolic nonsense by people reading more in to it then applies lolol

    Of course you could read the grow up version of how the right to bear arms is presently ;)

    6 Common Misconceptions About the Right to Bear Arms | WK Law
     
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    In our system the right to use lawful lethal force against an unlawful lethal threat is recognised in our founding documents.

    Do you have a problem with lawful force being used against an unlawful threat?
     
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    Do you have a problem with lawful force being used against an unlawful threat?
     
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    No problem.

    As long as the laws don't make it easier for the crazy to arm themselves.
     
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    If the lunatics were unarmed, normal citizens would not feel compelled to rush to the gun store to give themselves an illusion of safety.
     
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    Anyone can vote without proving who they are in every single Dem State. And mail in ballots are not voting at "very tightly controlled locations".

    Only restriction on speech is libel, slander, and incitement that will cause immediate violence.

    Ammo is a part of "arms". You can ignore that fact if you wish. Reality doesn't care though.

    You forget that the courts also ruled that arms in common use are not able to be restricted.
     
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    I really like the law of numbers.

    Biden got more votes.

    So he is better than Trump.
     
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    For 50 years, the court has ruled that Roe vs Wade was valid. ...

    Depending on who interprets the law, things can change.
     
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    Oh so if I go around making racist comments against black people then they won't consider that an attack? If I go around telling people that I think you're a pedophile then you won't feel attacked?

    Funny how the definition of "attacked" varies on what it is that you want/don't want attacked.
     
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    You stated that you have worked in schools for 23 years and have children in your care. I am thankful that you aren’t teaching them anything….
     

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