NY Times: Say, This Steele Dossier Appears To Be False (And Maybe Was A Russian Disinformation Effor

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  1. Jonsa

    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The idea it was disinformation from the start and trump and his cronies were just the biggest useful idiots on the planet?

    I wish I could take credit for it, but Meuller already raised that possibility about trump and the certainty about Jr.

    Yeah I see all the major moves he's made about cybersecurity. The EO's he's issued about election security and integrity. His condemnation of Putin and Russia and taking aggressive defensive measures to protect the election process?

    He has been derelict in his duty because he refused to believe the friggin fact that Russia attacked America, had a destablizing influence on the election process, and helped him achieve his electoral victory. The extent of his knowledge and involvement is still questionable since it appears his genius "greatest memories of all time" failed him 33 times in response to meuller's questions.

    Lyin, cheatin', crooked, deranged donald. A man of Infinitesimal character and integrity.
     
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    You are not a serious person.
     
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    Yep, not one claim of guilt.
     
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    Or put another way "Yeah, I spun a tale of garbage. But maybe you can 'investigate' said further garbage," Yeah, that son of a bitch is not a patriot.
     
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    That’s ridiculous. The dossier is garbage. You’ve just provided examples of that in post 15.
     
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    Denial is a river in africa and a disease in trumpland.
     
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    Nothing in post 15 is true. The dossier is garbage. So bad that not one news organization save the bottom dwelling Buzzfeed. How anyone can actually claim that anything is true in the dossier is absurd.
     
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    Huh? Most of the fake news over the past 2 and a half years was that Trump was a Russian spy who worked with them to rig the election. Based on a sampling of this forum, most of the dead enders on the left are still hanging on to that, but I'm just not going to take that sort of nonsense, or the people who spout it, seriously.
     
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    your repeated empty denials do you justice.
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No actually that was not the bulk of the fake news. That was the suspicion and since all those fake stories about russian contacts and sleazy criminal behaviors turned out to be true and the LIES were Deranged Donald's.

    Read the report. Its quite clear your dear leader is a sleazy lying crook. He most definitely obstructed justice and it seems he is continuing to do so.

    But I get you won't take that sort of reality. Congress will due its constitutionally mandated duty and provide oversight of the administration while moving forward on nailing down the case for impeachment.
     
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    High comedy this ^^^
     
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    Stop the hilarity. My sides are cramping from laughter. Are you Brian Stelter ???
     
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    Are you sponge bob?
     
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    Projecting again ??? Stelter is doing the same thing as your are which is giving credence to a garbage dossier.
     
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    Sigh, this craziness was understandable when the media was hyping up everyone that Trump was a Russkie spy, but at this point, it's simply tiresome. Go ahead, let Congress proceed with it's "constitutionally mandated duty and provide oversight of the administration while moving forward on nailing down the case for impeachment." I'll be getting the popcorn.
     
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    That's going to irritate nearly 40% of the Democrats who honestly believe it is time to move on and discuss policy.
     
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    And seriously pissoff all trumpettes who honestly believe trump is not a lying cheating crook who is obstructing justice, but a poor victim of dastardly leftist plots.
     
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    I doubt you've any concerns about how the "trumpettes" feel, think you ought to be a bit worried about how nearly 40% of Democrats see this, fatuous relentless pursuit is antagonizing a substantial portion of your base, keep at it and it might be a replay of 2016. Substance is past due.
     
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    Too bad the RW is so bad at making up insulting names, the Left are much better. Otherwise we could come up with a name for those clingers who keep pushing the collusion narrative, a name something like Birther.
     
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    You just struggle at every step and you talk about deranged? Wow
     
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    The Russian Collusion conspiracy theory actually is the birtherism of this age, only worse, because birtherism only attracted a small percentage of PUMA's and conservatives. So it never mattered. Russia Collusion has entranced the entire media, academia, law enforcement and intelligence services, and our political class. That so many people running the country have turned out to be tinfoil hat nuts is scary.
     
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    I think they REALLY wanted it to be true, but I think they knew they wasn't. These media outlets should be fined for perpetuating lies. Now they want to be contrite. Too little, too late. What's to stop them the next time?
     
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    The same thing that will stop the FBI, DOJ and FISA. Exposure, shame, reformation and, if appropriate, jail time.

    Politicians are incorrigible and will say whatever they can get away with, it's worked for the Clintons for decades, but the electorate has to become more politically sophisticated also. There is no good reason to support AOC or Bernie Sanders, for example, but millions do.
     
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    I don't think that there are all that many who believe. I think that most are just playing along.
     
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    Well plenty have staked their reputation, and in my opinion, blown their reputation, because of it.
     

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