Obama admin gave $310 million in contracts to defend illegal aliens from deportation

if you are saying that it applies to Hondurans or Mexicans that have invaded than yes you are.

Cite Clause please.

Well since that analogy was very apt you are saying it's not dumb at all.

 

Well deport them. I don't know where you came up with that other nonsense.

 

Deport them with no hearing or just with no representation at the hearing?
Someone accused of being here illegally has a constitutional right to counsel. Just as you would.

 

with no hearing. You're either illegally here or you're not there is no need for a hearing

where in the constitution does it say that?

 

The 6th amendment.
Lol and how do you determine if they’re here illegally without a hearing?

 

Who is hiring these illegals?

 

Mostly me and you...as nannies, house keepers, gardeners...

 

The sixth refers to criminal prosecution. Deportation isn't criminal prosecution.

 

LOL maybe you, I don't have a nanny, house keeper or gardener.

 

People need to wake up as Obama and the democrats have a lot of bad ideas.
Illegal immigration will destroy the US in the long run.

 

it applies to every person on US soil. Nationality is irrelevant.

6th amendment. See plyler v doe.

but we know the analogy was moronic, as it is in no way relevant to what we are discussing.

 

uh, in case you've been asleep for the past 2 years, republicans control the entire federal government, and Obama isn't president any longer. He has no power.

Why haven't republicans done ANYTHING about it?

 

The sixth amendment talks about criminal offenses. Deportation is not a criminal punishment.

 

yes it is. Illegal presence in the US, is a crime.

 

Yes but deportation it's not a punishment it isn't a fine and it isn't incarceration. know if it wanted to find them or incarcerate them that would be different. but returning them to their home country is what I would call a favor.

 

Doesn't have to be. The 6th amendment still applies. It's why they have a hearing.

what you call it has no relevance to constitutional law. All person inside US borders are under US jurisdiction, and have constitutional protections. Their immigration status is irrelevant.

 

no the sixth amendment only applies to criminal accusations.

Deportation does not require a criminal conviction.

 

illegal presence in the US is a criminal act. Deportation hearings are a criminal proceeding.

didn't say it did. I pointed out the constitution requires they have a hearing, and be given legal counsel.

 

if they were being prosecuted for a criminal the sixth amendment would apply they're just being returned to their home country. There would be no need for a hearing.

only in a criminal prosecution. Deporting non-citizens is not a criminal prosecution.

 

unfortunately what you think has no relevance to constitutional law. This is why they are required to have a hearing.

already refuted this.

 

again deportations are not a criminal prosecution. So the 6th amendment doesn't apply.

You just made assertions that's not a refutation.

 

You bring up a good point and I think it's the major reason why nothing will ever really be done about the illegal aliens. Both Democrats and Republicans want there to be illegal aliens. Because if you are a gardener or made you don't want to pay them what you would pay an American to do that. It's essentially a built-in under class. It's kind of messed up if you think about it.

 

the constitution, and the judiciary disagree with you.

no, I refuted your argument.

 

show me the decision that says deportation is a criminal hearing?

The Constitution does not disagree with me.

The only thing you posted that wasn't simply your twisted interpretation balsam Court case about k through 12 public School.

You didn't refute anyting. But if you must believe you did then by all means do it.

 

I don't need to.

yes it does. it's why there are hearings, lol.

this is incoherent.

I've refuted your argument, 10 times over.