Obama : Called Bengahzi incident an act of terror.

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  1. creation

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    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/carlson-...t-clear-that-obama-called-it-a-terrorist-act/


    So Obama says he did refer this incident as a terror attack. The right however says he did not, that he in fact referred to it as an act of terror, which somehow is different;

    So my question to conservatives is;

    If Obama didnt think it was a terrorist attack and wanted to push the agenda of calling it merely a riot about the video then why at the Rose Garden did he refer to this incident as an act of terror?

    Answer at your leisure.
     
  2. Cicero1964

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    Simple, any common murder/crime with physical injuries around the world could be considered an act of terror to the victims, yet they are not terrorist attacks. I have the entire rose garden speech posted below and it is quite obvious to those with brain cells that he was not stating this as the pre meditated terrorist attack that it was. Common sense also tells as that if he truly was claiming it to be a terrorist attack (which he absolutely was not) he would not send Susan Rice out to explain to the American public that it was over a You Tube video and a demonstration gone bad, nor would he present it to the UN as such. The fact is that he lied about it for 2 weeks and the reasoning would be for political gain.

    THE PRESIDENT: Good morning. Every day, all across the world, American diplomats and civilians work tirelessly to advance the interests and values of our nation. Often, they are away from their families. Sometimes, they brave great danger.
    Yesterday, four of these extraordinary Americans were killed in an attack on our diplomatic post in Benghazi. Among those killed was our Ambassador, Chris Stevens, as well as Foreign Service Officer Sean Smith. We are still notifying the families of the others who were killed. And today, the American people stand united in holding the families of the four Americans in our thoughts and in our prayers.
    The United States condemns in the strongest terms this outrageous and shocking attack. We're working with the government of Libya to secure our diplomats. I've also directed my administration to increase our security at diplomatic posts around the world. And make no mistake, we will work with the Libyan government to bring to justice the killers who attacked our people.
    Since our founding, the United States has been a nation that respects all faiths. We reject all efforts to denigrate the religious beliefs of others. But there is absolutely no justification to this type of senseless violence. None. The world must stand together to unequivocally reject these brutal acts.
    Already, many Libyans have joined us in doing so, and this attack will not break the bonds between the United States and Libya. Libyan security personnel fought back against the attackers alongside Americans. Libyans helped some of our diplomats find safety, and they carried Ambassador Stevens’s body to the hospital, where we tragically learned that he had died.
    It's especially tragic that Chris Stevens died in Benghazi because it is a city that he helped to save. At the height of the Libyan revolution, Chris led our diplomatic post in Benghazi. With characteristic skill, courage, and resolve, he built partnerships with Libyan revolutionaries, and helped them as they planned to build a new Libya. When the Qaddafi regime came to an end, Chris was there to serve as our ambassador to the new Libya, and he worked tirelessly to support this young democracy, and I think both Secretary Clinton and I relied deeply on his knowledge of the situation on the ground there. He was a role model to all who worked with him and to the young diplomats who aspire to walk in his footsteps.
    Along with his colleagues, Chris died in a country that is still striving to emerge from the recent experience of war. Today, the loss of these four Americans is fresh, but our memories of them linger on. I have no doubt that their legacy will live on through the work that they did far from our shores and in the hearts of those who love them back home.
    Of course, yesterday was already a painful day for our nation as we marked the solemn memory of the 9/11 attacks. We mourned with the families who were lost on that day. I visited the graves of troops who made the ultimate sacrifice in Iraq and Afghanistan at the hallowed grounds of Arlington Cemetery, and had the opportunity to say thank you and visit some of our wounded warriors at Walter Reed. And then last night, we learned the news of this attack in Benghazi.
    As Americans, let us never, ever forget that our freedom is only sustained because there are people who are willing to fight for it, to stand up for it, and in some cases, lay down their lives for it. Our country is only as strong as the character of our people and the service of those both civilian and military who represent us around the globe.
    No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for. Today we mourn four more Americans who represent the very best of the United States of America. We will not waver in our commitment to see that justice is done for this terrible act. And make no mistake, justice will be done.
    But we also know that the lives these Americans led stand in stark contrast to those of their attackers. These four Americans stood up for freedom and human dignity. They should give every American great pride in the country that they served, and the hope that our flag represents to people around the globe who also yearn to live in freedom and with dignity.
    We grieve with their families, but let us carry on their memory, and let us continue their work of seeking a stronger America and a better world for all of our children.
    Thank you. May God bless the memory of those we lost and may God bless the United States of America.
     
  3. Marlowe

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    Looks like Mormom Mitt , dropped another clanger , failed to do his ,exposing himself , once again as a Mormon Moron. LOL
     
  4. Lee S

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    He mentioned terror in his Rose Garden speech almost in passing. If he did say it was an act of terror, then why did he send the UN Ambassador, Susan Rice, to lie to the American Public five days later on no fewer than five Sunday news shows? If he did believe it was an act of terror, why did he give a UN speech the next week in which he apologized for the video no fewer than six times? This is awfully odd behavior.

    So these circumstances can be explained in only one of two ways. First, the President saw the Libyan violence as an existential threat to his continued employment and he decided to lie about it in hopes that the American public did not see an uncanny resemblance between his Middle Eastern policies and those of Jimmy Carter. This explanation would assume the President divulged more at the Rose Garden press conference than he wanted to.

    The second explanation is that Obama is really that incompetent. Obama didn't know the true nature of the attack because he didn't bother showing up to 15 straight daily security briefings prior to the attack and comments at the Rose Garden were general in nature and did not mean to insinuate that this attack was anything more than a demonstration getting out of hand.

    Out of the two possibilities, dishonesty and gross incompetence, I would prefer that the President was dishonest, but I suspect that he really is just that incompetent.
     
  5. Marlowe

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    And may the same god also punish America for its sins , for the murder of countless innocent civilians by its barbaric attacks/invasions of lands far beyond its borders.


    “VENGEANCE IS MINE”, sayeth the Lord" America shall in due course get its come upense.


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    BitterPill New Member Past Donor

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    An act of terror is terrorism despite your contortions.

    Face it: Obama didn't lie; Romney did, and Romney got caught.
     
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    BitterPill New Member Past Donor

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    You sound like a Westboro Baptist. Spell like one too.
     
  8. Cicero1964

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    You mean the ones the Brits allied with us on? Or are you just talking about the ones like the English beating on the Scotts and Irish? Can you clarify for me? :grin: Hypocrite!
     
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    Nah - I'm a Tech college product - trained to work with nuts/bolts/grease + spanners Spell checker wasnt wasnt much use in my line of work.


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  10. Cicero1964

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    Well than I am sure you have an explanation for Rice and the UN as well, and why they finally admitted it was a premeditated terrorist attack? I await your answer it should be quite funny. :popcorn:
     
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    [video=youtube;m_mDTLphIVY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_mDTLphIVY[/video]
     
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    keymanjim New Member Past Donor

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    What browser do you use?

    Because there is an add on called iespell you can use.
     
  13. Marlowe

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    If you looked closer you'd learn that the majority here was opposed to involvement in a war which the lying scoundrel Tony Blair dragged our soldiers into . The swine lied to Parliament, pretending to have access to security information to justify joining that bastard GW Bush .



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  14. Think for myself

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    I think that many folks are playing silly semantics games with this.

    Did he call it a terrorist attack within a day? No. Did he call it an act of terror within a day? Yes.
     
  15. Cicero1964

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    No you face it! An act of terror can be terrorism or it could just be a crime of passion or any crime with physical injuries. By your logic our local paper is lying to us and we don't have gang bangers what we have is a well known Terrorist Cell right here in Chicago.


    http://www.suntimes.com/news/crime/14697645-418/story.html


    They call it Terror Town. On Thursday, it lived up to its name. Eight people were shot in a fight between warring factions of the same gang in the South Side neighborhood known by the alarming name. They were among 19 shot citywide in a violent nine-hour stretch that began at 5:15 p.m. Thursday.
    Police and residents alike agree on the name of the neighborhood on the South Shore.
    Gang-banging has long gone on in the area, but disputes used to be resolved largely without weapons, longtime residents say. Now, fights are settled with guns, they say.
    “When we was growing up, we were growing up gang-banging and fighting with our fists,” said Donnell Johnson, 42. “These kids aren’t picking up sticks or bottles, nothing. They ain’t. They come and shoot you.”
    Gang-bangers are staying closer to home and fighting more among themselves.
     
  16. Cicero1964

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    Same as Americans not all agreed probably 50 50 so this does not exonerate you. Now let’s talk about the Irish and the Scotts you so absolutely ignored and want to go away? Told ya he was a hypocrite! :-D
     
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    Truth is , I'm easy , and not fussed abt spelling.



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    It does affect the content of your posts.
     
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    If it's a crime of passion, then it's not terrorism. If you don't understand that, I can't help you. Nobody can.
     
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    It was closer to 20-80. I remember well being one of the 20.
     
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    He lied for two weeks obviously.

    He made a general statement: "No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for." But the context of that statement suggests strongly that President Obama was referring to terror in general. Furthermore, Obama's reference to "terror" came near the end of his statement. His initial description of the attacks, at the start of his statement, portrayed them as an excessive response to the anti-Islam video upon which the Obama relied for days and weeks thereafter: "Since our founding, the United States has been a nation that respects all faiths. We reject all efforts to denigrate the religious beliefs of others. But there is absolutely no justification for this type of senseless violence."

    He then went on for two more weeks with that lie.
     
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    I took an active part in London's 2003 anti-War march. therefore I'm "exonerated".

    Why the double T in [B] Scotts [/B] ? instead of SCOT (singular ) or SCOTTISH ?

    If you wish to discuss iIrish/Scottish/Welsh/Cornish/Geordies/Brummies/Scousers/Cockneys/Sassanachs etc.,etc. which is IMO - Off Topic - then I suggest you start another separate thread .

    Byeeeeeee.
     
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    "Since our founding, the United States has been a nation that respects all faiths. We reject all efforts to denigrate the religious beliefs of others. But there is absolutely no justification for this type of senseless violence."


    BINGO!
    Nobody can argue with that, he laid the groundwork for the entire situation, which I may add they followed up on..
    In actuality no such thing happened, there was no demonstration at all.
     
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    Romney got beat so badly on this point...I don't think Obama has handled it that well, but if you're going to make an accusation against the president you better (*)(*)(*)(*)ing know what you're talking about.
     

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