Obama decrees - Free Sterilizations Must be Offered to All College Women

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  1. AnnaK

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    An even harder concept for some people to understand is that birth control and condoms are not 100% effective. Sterilization is.
     
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    You shoun't, I woun't not in good consusne ask you to to so. If I want viagra I woudl pay for it out of my own pocket.

    You shouldn’t, I would not in good conscience ask you to do so. If I want Viagra I would and I should pay for it out of my own pocket.

    And who is asking me to pay for a women’s birth control, the federal gov’t, Obama?
     
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    Where do you see "death" in sterelization or vasectomy?

    Actually, both would prevent abortion and unwanted birth. . . so you are totally off the deep end!
     
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    Sadanie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Nope! Obamacare is about having the big for profit insurance provide MORE COVERAGE than what they are currently providing. . .which is basically very little considering that they only cover people who are withing the "younger" age group and who are healthy!
     
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    Out of 1000 people who have sex and use both of them in conjunction with eachother, 1 person is going to get pregrent. When you use one with out the other, the odds are much higher.

    Why should the American tax payer pay for a women’s Sterilization procedure when she can use BC and condoms or reducing the risk by not having sex w/o production? Answer that question.
     
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    I think its rare for women of child bearing age to have such conditions. I have known alot of women who have been pregnant, and many have had no complications, some have been given bed rest until delivery, and one who died after child birth because an undetected bleed not caught until too late. Some do have children with downs syndrom, and have chosen to have it any way. Like Palem did, and the leftist women hate her for it. Life is risk, never risk free, and always dangerous, a bolt of lightning can get you in the blink of an eye. The abortion death first folks fantacise about the improbable and the most extreme conditions, and then breathlessly extole the tradgedy of the nearly nonexistent in our modern world, its the same presentaion in the AGW debate. Leftists have a playbook and follow it in every way just as Alinski taught.
     
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    By covering Vigraia? Somethign that isn't need to live
     
  8. AnnaK

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    Are you really worried that America isn't reproducing fast enough? With all the puling and whining about single mothers and illegitimate children and abortion, it makes no sense for Rightists to fight this other than for purely partisan reasons.

    And speaking of China, if the Republican controlled state legislatures find it so easy to pass laws controlling reproduction, how hard do you think it would be to pass laws limiting a woman to 1 pregnancy? Rightists suck and have no common sense.
     
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    Its the bigger picture, the non result, cleaner and less visable that abortion and partial birth abortion. The result is the same, no babies. And coming soon to a health care facility near you, no old people either. Leftists suck.
     
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    Is that what the Republican controlled state legislatures are planning next - FORCED abortions and sterilizations? You need to give yourself a break and try to find out what you're talking about. :rolleyes:
     
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    No. Its about paying through the ass for services at inflated prices of limited quality at fewer facilities and with worse results.
     
  12. AnnaK

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    They're performed on demand for men whose wives have a health condition that would make pregnancy dangerous or simply because they don't want any more children. But that's "different" - we're talking about WOMEN here and as we all know, women can't make a decision about their personal health care because they don't have the necessary brain cells - but men DO. :rage:
     
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    Yes. Illegal immagration does not count, and should be stopped. People should have the families they wish to have, Its called being free. Leftists hate freedom and liberty. The only things wrong with the world today are Islamo's and leftist losers. Wherever there is strife and misery, there are either leftist losers or Islamo's at the root of it. Even here in America.
     
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    Insurance companies don't do that.
     
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    Built on a virtual platform of sheer lies.CBO just Rescored
    ObamaCare.Obama and Dimocrats swearing it would cost
    $900 some Billion.CBO just announced it will be DOUBLE or
    $1.76 Trillion.Lets start with that LIE.
    Double is a 100% Increase.That far off means flat out
    fraud.Imagine going to close on a Home Mortgage and at closing
    you found out the fees would add up to what the Home was
    listed as.
    I can't think of a better way to announce ... Throw the Bum Out.
     
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    That is hisloserness health care plan at full fruition. I already know what I am talking about, and I am right. As always.
     
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    What an excellent and on target post. If I could rep you... I would.

    What have we become as a society when people expect for the results of their sexual acts to be paid by someone else?
     
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    It seems to me that women having the good sense to use birth control to prevent pregnancy or treat medical conditions IS taking responsibility for their actions. I get the idea that you want to make women responsible for not becoming pregnant but at the same time, do everything in your power to make it impossible and then blame them if they DO get pregnant so you can call them "irresponsible women" who should then be punished by making it as difficult as possible to get a legal abortion or take care of the child if she has it.
     
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    Baloney. They can pay for their own $9 birth control that will work for virtually all women. You liberals are just making up giant STRAW WOMEN for political purposes. The reality is that if a woman cannot pay for her $9 birth control or get free condoms via a bus ride... then they should not be having sex because they are indeed irresponsible. By the way, the same goes for their male partners.
     
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    Ah, the deep pockets of the taxpayer to indulge the irresponsable, and the shallow morals of the left to either kill the baby or fully fund the mom, in full view for all to see.
     
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    Absolutely nobody that I know of. It will be covered by the health insurance policy purchased by a woman - just like vasectomies and Viagra are covered by the health policies purchased by men. I don't know why Conservatives keep acting like it's going to come out of their personal pockets. Just more of the same old lies and misinformation that we find ourselves arguing against on a regular basis. :no:
     
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    Why should a woman with a serious health condition that makes pregnancy dangerous for her rely on BC and condoms when she can have her tubes tied and be free of the worry forever? The American taxpayer isn't going to be paying for ANY of this - the insurance companies are. Where are you getting this misinformation? :confused:
     
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    Just exactly what do you think this is all about anyway? What a bizaare thing for you to say when that's exactly what women want - to have the families they WANT to have - not children they aren't ready for or can't afford to take care of when they will be later. That's the purpose of birth control and sterilization. As hard as it may be for you to comprehend, there ARE people who don't want ANY children for their own personal reasons which I construe as freedom and liberty. Your idea of freedom and liberty seems to be to force women to be brood mares and have children when YOU want them to and whether they're physically able to or not.

    Neverleftists need to get a brain.
     
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    Bull(*)(*)(*)(*). If you don't understand what's involved here, you should excuse yourself from trying to discuss it.
     
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    And modest. . . and factual too!!! :no::w00t:
     

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