Obama-No-Show at Trial. Sworn testimony reveals fake Social Security number!

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  1. The Mello Guy

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    lol do you tihnk they also made you turn off your cell phones back then?
     
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    Modern Jets are faster than turbo props.
     
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    lol, so snide about his roots, that he wrote 2 books about them.
     
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    the state of hawaii said he did. twice.
     
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    hahahaha, please explain how he usupred the constitution and committed treason.


    this should be awesome!
     
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    Turbo props? Are you saying that's all that existed in 1961? Are you being serious right now? I do believe that PanAm as well as American Airlines both had jet airplanes in the late 50's...58, perhaps? So what in sam hill are you talking about??
     
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    actually, there are no questions about the validity of it. hawaii certified it's genuine. there are no inconsistencies, and no mistakes or strange numbers on it.
     
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    Sworn testimony reveals bogus op!
     
  10. rahl

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    no, it isn't. your link, AKA birther blog, is mistaken, because minor had exactly nothing to do with citizenship. NOTHING. so, it's obviously not covered in your link.
     
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    Are you talking about Doug Goyt.. the scanner salesman? I think he suddenly got too busy to testify in Georgia.
     
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    I agree with the OP. The john Birch society has a monopoly on making up conspiricy theories about the half white president.
     
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    Which has nothing to do with what I just posted....:mrgreen:
     
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    She couldnt be denied the right to vote by a state law, because she already had that right as a natural born citizen, born of 2 citizen parents.
     
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    That's nice....:mrgreen:
     
  16. Montoya

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    Since when do your parents have to be citizens? Fact is a child born on US soil from illegal immigrants is considered a natural born citizen. The child cannot be naturalized because he/she did not emigrate here. And as it is common knowledge there are only two types of citizens, natural born/native born and naturalized. There is no third. You fail again.

    Oh and you can cite all the birther blogs and supposed "cases" all you want, they will ALL be wrong because of the aboved mentioned facts. Perhaps you should learn some.
     
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    It went from turbo props in the early 1950s to prop jets around 1959 to jets in the early 1960s..
     
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    You are mistaken, Montoya.

    Read the U.S. Constitution.

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    I have and nowhere does it say anything about parents having to be citizens.
     
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    sounds like Mitt and Newt need to read it
     
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    Please provide sources for your claims. Thanks.
     
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    I think he's putting his faith in the law, legal precedent and facts. Not idiotic, lying birther blogs. Perhaps you should do the same. It's called 'honesty'. You may have heard the term.
     
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    Well the state of Hawaii should know, shouldn't it? I daresay they have a better handle on the facts and the truth than you could dream of.
     
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    Try reading it... James is afraid to do so.

    Natural-born citizen

    Who is a natural-born citizen? Who, in other words, is a citizen at birth, such that that person can be a President someday?

    The 14th Amendment defines citizenship this way: "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside." But even this does not get specific enough. As usual, the Constitution provides the framework for the law, but it is the law that fills in the gaps.

    The Constitution authorizes the Congress to do create clarifying legislation in Section 5 of the 14th Amendment; the Constitution, in Article 1, Section 8, Clause 4, also allows the Congress to create law regarding naturalization, which includes citizenship.

    Currently, Title 8 of the U.S. Code fills in the gaps left by the Constitution. Section 1401 defines the following as people who are "citizens of the United States at birth:"
    •Anyone born inside the United States *
    •Any Indian or Eskimo born in the United States, provided being a citizen of the U.S. does not impair the person's status as a citizen of the tribe
    •Any one born outside the United States, both of whose parents are citizens of the U.S., as long as one parent has lived in the U.S.
    •Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year and the other parent is a U.S. national
    •Any one born in a U.S. possession, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year
    •Any one found in the U.S. under the age of five, whose parentage cannot be determined, as long as proof of non-citizenship is not provided by age 21
    •Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time)
    •A final, historical condition: a person born before 5/24/1934 of an alien father and a U.S. citizen mother who has lived in the U.S.

    * There is an exception in the law — the person must be "subject to the jurisdiction" of the United States. This would exempt the child of a diplomat, for example, from this provision.

    http://www.usconstitution.net/consttop_citi.html


    (How many kinds of US citizenship do YOU think there are?)
     
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    The "justice" department shouldnt provide guns to murderous illegal alien drug cartel members, but they did....
     

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