Obama Threatens the American People with a Gov't Shut Down

More Americans Would Blame Republicans for Shutdown. But . . .

by Keith Koffler

 

"What's best for the country" is to not let petty partisan politics shut down the government or put it into default.

Which means CRs and debt-ceiling bills should be devoid of any unrelated rider -- from *either* side.

If the House wants a fight over Obamacare, it should start a fight over Obamacare. But it should not hold the government and economy hostage while doing so.

 

And this is the most honest answer I've actually gotten on the matter. Thank you. I'll have to look into and verify for myself to see if what you say is correct(if you have a link that would be nice)but if you're right then I'll have to take back my statement.

I know in the past though they were unwilling to negotiate on anything and that's what I basing my entire argument on. Is what their asking for enough? We'll see but at least it's a start.

 

Just because something is law doesn't mean it can't be brought up and have changes made to it.

 

Of course. Nothing I've said suggests otherwise.

 

Sorry. Some people on here seem to be arguing the case that since it was passed it can't be brought forward.

 

The Left is okay with Obama/Democrats altering and delaying the implementation of Obamacare. It's only a problem when Republicans do it.

 

But of corse republicans aren't interested in changing the law. They only want to stop the law, which isn't going to happen.

The ACA is law now. The GOP needs to accept that and work on making changes to it that will help the law succeed and thereby help the American people. But they have no interest in that, as it might make the democrats look good. The GOP doesn't give a flying (*)(*)(*)(*) about the American people. All they care about is 2016. Since there isn't even a remote chance of getting the law "defunded" or repealed, they are going to try and delay it until 2016 so they can still use it as a boogeyman. If the law goes into full effect before then, the American people might find out it's not the big bad wolf the republicans made it out to be, or even worse, they might like it.

 

Except the House has passed a bill funding everything but obamacare

So quite the opposite from damaging the economy, they've made their ideological stand. They don't think Obamacare's good for the goose or the gander, and they're protecting their constituency.

It was the Liberals themselves who delayed Obamacare, so if Liberals can delay it for some, they can delay it for all. The reality is it's Obama and the Dems who are holding the economy hostage.

 

Terrorists make an ideological stand too, when they make political demands they cannot achieve by legitimate means, and threaten harm and damage if their demands aren't met.

 

ObamaCare is (*)(*)(*)(*). We already know that.

The GOP doesn't have to accept anything, especially a horrible, authoritarian law that Democrats passed on their own by hook and by crook and is still opposed by a majority of Americans.

Get used to this. It's what the Democrats get for refusing to work with Republicans in a bipartisan manner in the first place.

 

The shutdown, IF it happens would not be the catastrophe that Barack is screaming about. He just wants to shift his blame, that he owns, to somebody else. It's all fake and the dems know it. Mark Levin levels the democrats quite nicely with the element of truth and experience in his interview with Jack Tapper on CNN. So nice to see the BS just sliced through on CNN. He is right, dems know it too, Barack back track is a serial liar.

[video=youtube;wir6R49JuvY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wir6R49JuvY[/video]

 

Last I checked, the Republicans don't control the Senate. Either the Democrats can accept the House Republicans proposal, or they can skip rocks. There's nothing unconstitutional about it. The Founders themselves implemented that check and balance thing

 

Astute!

There is nothing unconstitutional about the Republicans having power to (*)(*)(*)(*) up the country. Agreed. The fact they are using that threat to achieve their political demands, which they cannot achieve by legitimate means, is what is acting like a terrorist.

 

If Speaker Boehner simply lets the House vote on the Senate CR, it will pass and this game will end quickly.

But Boehner won't let the House vote on the Senate bill because he knows all Democrats will vote for it and they only need 17 Republicans to vote for it.

He's a coward. John Boehner is personally responsible for the govt. shutdown.

 

GOP opposing church fix:
http://www.drudge.com/news/170981/gop-opposes-obamacare-fix-churches
http://www.religionnews.com/2013/08...trouble-for-clergy-insurance-under-obamacare/

GOP refusing to provide implementation funds:
http://www.politico.com/story/2013/04/hhs-seeks-obamacare-funds-budget-2014-89915.html

GOP refusing to provide funds to let people know about the exchanges and how they work:
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/the-all-important-obamacare-marketing-funding-gap

GOP Reps. refusing to help constituents who have questions about the law:
http://thehill.com/blogs/healthwatc...onstituents-questions-on-obamacare-call-obama

Heck, they can't even admit that it's a law, preferring to call it a "bill":
http://thehill.com/blogs/healthwatc...lawmakers-bridle-at-calling-obamacare-the-law

While conservative groups are actively encouraging people not to get insurance:
http://www.mydaytondailynews.com/news/news/refuse-to-enroll-effort-seeks-to-disrupt-planad-wa/nY5ST/

 

Anybody notice this ODD contradiction...

Rightwingers who BOTH say "I'd welcome a Govt Shutdown. Shut it down!"....AND want to "blame Obama and the Democrats" for it?!?!?!?!?

 

They're doing what we, the people elected them to do. l know, strange concept, huh?

 

When the govt shuts down ... which of you conservatives will either be *essential workers* or sondercommandos* ?

 

I don't depend on the government, so it doesn't affect me.

 

If Obama had a brain he would stop being so stubborn and make an attempt to fix his train wreck bill.

 

Most libs on the other hand are tethered to government and can't hold their breath during a government shutdown for very long.

 

If he had a brain, it would look like Trayvon's brain.

 

Maybe the libs in congress should take that into account. I mean as you said it is their voter base. At least you admit it, they are willing to put their own voters at risk.

 

What about your constituents who are private govt contractors ?

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You mean law.