Obama: "We're supposed to stand up to bullies...Nazis are bad!"

So is FBI data "questionable" or not? You dismissed it entirely until I noticed you didn't carefully read your own source which drew from the same FBI data set.

Have you decided if the data is questionable or not yet? Or is it situationally acceptable only when it makes Trump supporters look bad, otherwise it's "questionable"?

This sounds an awful lot like motivated reasoning combined with racial prejudice at work.

racism
noun

rac·ism | \ ˈrā-ˌsi-zəm also -ˌshi- \
Definition of Racism


1: a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race

2a: a doctrine or political program based on the assumption of racism and designed to execute its principles

b: a political or social system founded on racism

3: racial prejudice or discrimination

Tim Wise is a neo-Marxist shyster. He's not even a scholar with a relevant background. He's an activist who sells books and speeches bashing white people. I took FBI data from 2016 and calculated percentages based on reported hate crimes. Tell me how specifically I "distorted" and "selectively interpreted" data. I did no such thing. I calculated percentages.

You have switched arguments from FBI data is "questionable" to coming up with off-the-cuff rationalizations for why yes, blacks commit more hate crimes, but it's because of some innocuous reason that no statistician or anyone else has said "explains" the lopsided data. It's quite clear there's a struggle to explain away embarrassing data without admitting the obvious culpability in the data by those that are committing the offenses. "Yeah blacks commit more hate crimes but white people...."

Blacks commit a disproportionate amount of hate crimes in the US because blacks are more likely to have the hateful, violent attitudes that drive them compared to other groups in the US be they white, Latino, or otherwise. Period. If whites wanted to commit hate crimes, they could easy get in a car and drive across town and do it. Truth is, they aren't, with nearly zero exception.

So is the FBI data good or bad? You went from knee-jerk calling it "questionable" because it was embarrassing to admitting it's validity once you found out your entire argument was based on the same data and are now trying to rationalize away the discrepancy.

 

This comment is hilarious considering I never stated that FBI data was invalid only that the data sets you referenced were questionable. Plus your whole argument is based on nonsense. How many White Americans in mid Western towns for example can get in a car and "drive across town" to commit hate crimes against Black people? In many parts of the United States there are very few Black people to victimize. No doubt some of the Blacks committing hate crimes in the inner city and suburbs are racist against White people due to resentment for institutional racism and some are Black Supremacists. They are also statistically more likely to become violent criminals because of living in poor environmental conditions.

However the reality is that more White people commit hate crimes than Blacks. Most victims of hate crimes in the United States are Black. Most of the offenders are White. Most of the recognized hate groups in the United States are White. The reason is because America has a culture of White Supremacy which was socially acceptable for most of American history to the point of being a way of life, especially in the antebellum South and those views are still held by many White Americans today whether they inherited them from their families spanning generations, were influenced by media or developed them on their own.

America has a problem with racism. Fortunately many White Americans are Egalitarians today and are disgusted by the racist rhetoric of the alt-Right and White Nationalist groups. White Egalitarians like Tim Wise involved in anti-racist activism are trying to help heal the soul of America which was infused with racist ideology from its inception. The Founding Fathers had racist attitudes because racism was ingrained in their culture. The internet has allowed racist social networks to grow and most of the racists spreading hate on the internet are White Americans. Case in point where is the Black equivalent of Stormfront? Black Twitter? Where is the Asian or Hispanic equivalent for that matter? According to racial hereditarian research Asians are the ones who are mentally superior and have the highest IQs but I don't see Asian-Americans or Asians from China, Japan and Korea spending nearly as much time and energy promoted racial hierarchies in intelligence. Where are the Asian Supremacists? Some of them are racist, ethnocentric and xenophobic for sure but they don't organize and put the time and effort in to claiming that people who don't look like them are inferior to them.

Trump is telling America that it is ok to hate again. He is a racist and a bully with alt-right sympathies and associations.

 

No you attacked FBI data in general and are now trying to walk it back. You did not merely attack a "data set" that I referenced. I referenced the entirety of FBI data regarding hate crimes and broke the total tally down into percents committed by each demographic.

Your study looked at the same hate crime data set. So which is it? The same data set, good or bad? Depends on the outcome and not quality, right?

Below is your original comment attacking FBI methodology in toto:

You attacked FBI data in toto and you can't walk it back. Truth is you want to accept only FBI data that validates your pre-existing view as white-as-pervasive-villain, and that is an argument based on pre-existing prejudice.

racism
noun

rac·ism | \ ˈrā-ˌsi-zəm also -ˌshi- \
Definition of Racism


1: a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race

2a: a doctrine or political program based on the assumption of racism and designed to execute its principles

b: a political or social system founded on racism

3: racial prejudice or discrimination

My argument is that FBI data proves that blacks commit the highest per capita rate of hate crimes than any other group. The only reason that "more white people commit hate crimes than blacks" is because as I said there are 500% more whites than blacks in the US which is why per capita data is used to compare equal portions of the population. Blacks commit hate crimes at a higher rate than white people do.

Blacks commit hate crimes at a rate 2x their portion of the US population. Whites commit them at less than 1x their portion of the US population.

Basic math is not "nonsense."

Yep and FBI data shows a disproportionate per capita rate of hate crimes are committed by blacks, and this is a subject the media are unwilling to discuss. Denying or trying to rationalize it away doesn't make it go away.

Zero proof of any of this. The ones on the left are the ones "hating" again. Harassing people in restaurants, rioting, attacking people for wearing a Trump hat, etc. Your folk.

 

So an American flag is considered bad, because some moronic twits carried one at their rally? Are you actually aware of the content of your statement?

 

This is a popular manufactured crisis hawked in the media especially on election years. Those guys are 10 guys in a clown bus and four of the 10 are FBI informants.

Absolutely irrelevant and only serve as fodder for fundraisers.

 

Your statement is ridiculous. I didn't say that anyone who waves the American flag is racist. The KKK also identify as Christian. That doesn't make the Holy Cross a symbol of hate. Whether you are a card-carrying member of the KKK or dress up as one for Halloween or go to a rally dressed as one you are advertising to the world that you are a racist and anyone who is not racist should not be seen supporting them.



Look at that T-shirt. I don't know that woman. I don't know if she is an official member of the KKK and I have never seen her utter one word but that t-shirt makes me think of her as an evil racist demon who is either a member of the KKK, idolizes them or thinks it is acceptable or funny to advocate lynching people on a T-Shirt. Why is this an unreasonable belief?

The same goes for racists on the internet with Nazi or other racist imagery in their avatars or who promote any form of racism on the internet.




Why is someone who fits this description not a racist?

 

In your post you made a point of bringing up symbols. In one of the pictures of your post, included an American Flag carried by one of the idiots. Since you claim people should know the symbols of Nazis and Racists, (The Confederate Flag, and such) then by that comment, you are including the American Flag.

Clarity, it's important.

 

Well for the record I am not including the American Flag. The Confederate Flag has been used in hate rallies by White Supremacists for decades and Neo-Nazis often use the symbols of The National Socialist German Workers' Party.

 

At least you clarified. Just remember hate comes in may shapes and colors, and you don't always see it before it's right in front of you.

 

The koolaid I drink is cold, sweet and full of facts.

 

And yet there're still no lynchings, no concentration camps, and no gas chambers.

These modern Nazi KKK'ers are pretty incompetent...

How about we get off this stupid Nazi distraction, and focus our attention toward the left. That's where the danger lies.

 

Nazis killed Americans during WW II.
All real patriots denounce them and their American Fifth Columnists.

Anyone who defends them is a traitor.

 

As proven previously there have been FAR more terrorist attacks in the USA from the far right. Thus, no surprise that they fellow traitors want to focus attention on needless distractions rather than on our real enemies.

 

Alll those Nazis.

If you cover your head with your blanket, they can't get you.

 

America's enemies.

And that third pic proves who are the real Anti-Semites.

 

Sure.

You know, as well as I do, that those Nazis are all Obama's COINTELPRO dudes.

 

They are incompetent because they don't have power. When you allow them to gain power that is when you get lynchings, concentration camps and gas chambers. I don't agree with you on concentrating on the left. Just criticize, condemn and punish all criminals and bigots. One nuclear bomb could cause more destruction and than any individual violent criminal or small hate group. Having Trump as President is dangerous. Having politicians who think like him is dangerous because they have the power to influence the masses and pass laws that all citizens are legally obligated to obey.

 

I agree that politicians can really screw us over. I just believe that your concerns are misplaced. It is the left, along with the establishment Republicans, are attacking our personal freedoms. But it is the left who are policing our thoughts. They have control over the education of our kids. Eventually, they will have so conditioned us, that we will cheerfully vote to become Venezuela.

The left are more dangerous than some groups of nutjobs who will never amount to anything.

The great Nazi scare is a fraud. It has been manufactured to be a way to silence those who oppose the left. And to frighten those who are easily frightened. The leftist scaremongers really are scaring people. Over nothing. But those scared people will pray for the Democrats to save them. From nothing.

 

Obama is the biggest bully ever. In time, history will show he and Bush 43 set the stage for the calamity that is coming.

 

There's not too many Nazis around because they're all old as hell or dead. If anything, the folks you see are neo-Nazis, and just as irritating as you think they'd be. With that in mind, NO ONE wants to hang around a Nazi, neo-Nazi or a sympathizer of either. They're like the genital warts of America.