Obamacare: Democrats own it, it's on you! Fix it!!

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  1. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    OK, so Trump has overestimated the simplicity of running the Government and getting things done in Washington. I grant you that. Is he a fast learner? We'll see.
     
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    It has been 7+ years already,so they should have come up with a reasonable plan.
     
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    It was incompetent when it passed ACA.
     
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    Not really the difference between competent and incompetence is actually doing something the ACA was passed so they were actually doing some what the Republicans did the other day is not doing something
     
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    Can't refute the fact, when R's get control, the country suffers. Not surprising.
     
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    Bottom line. I don't care WHOSE fault things are - fix it!

    This whole thread is like watching a bunch of 5th graders standing around watching a toilet overflow and blaming each
    other for the mess.

    Real leaders FIX problems - they don't stand around like little kids watching the problem get worse just so they
    don't have to take the blame. Trump and the Republicans can stand with their thumbs up their arse blaming the little
    kid next to them, or they can put on their big boy pants. Their choice.
     
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    And the PLAN, went, perfectly ;)
     
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    ... and if they do, in four or eight years those they've stuck it to will have the same complaint. We can no longer afford to compromise this countries future because grown men are not in the mood to do their job.



     
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    Right, Trump can't get a full cabinet, spends the majority of his time defending nonsense from inner agencies and the MSN! Damn you're asking a lot! If I were a 5th grade Republican I'd work to make the extreme left extinct! Granted Obarry took some crap but it's nothing compared to what Trump is being bombarded with! I doubt anyone one of us could deal with this sort of hazing, in fact they're plenty of stories of young adults that couldn't deal with it and are no longer among us! Liberals are brutally insensitive, cant be reasoned with and will never stop even faced with their own political peril! Only thing to do with a fire this intense is help it burn itself out!
     
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    The baby boomer generation. Dismantling America, one issue at a time.
    Their parents and grandparents are rolling over in their graves.
     
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    That is a typical snowflake response. Trump is getting called names worse than obama. Boo hoo.
    Obama was a black skinned prez, Trump is getting nowhere the same insults and name calling.

    Remember, the R's never talked to obama 1 time. Never intended on giving him 1 vote on anything 1 time.
    Their agenda, which they also failed at, was to make him a 1 term prez.
     
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    And in all that time you haven't even come to grips with "WHO" started the rumor :) Right there on video from a popular left wing media source showing a democrats eating democrats and you point the finger at Republicans, is there any wonder?
     
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    Republicans are in power, they could not come up with anything better then the ACA....
     
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    No Boo Hoo bro, "I'd work to make the extreme left extinct!" there's difference in crying and trying!
     
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    EVERY President has to deal with issues - and many of Trump's are self inflicted - all he has to do is put away his Twitter BS, and 70% of them would disappear.

    All you're doing is playing the Trump as Victim card. Pathetic.
     
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    I agree, those kinda poll shoudl be sold over the counter, no doctors needed unless you "want" some advice, and then and only then woudl you see the doctor for them
     
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    Why the ACA will serve a better purpose if left to live! Trump said he was going empty the swamp, he just never mentioned it was Democrat swamp :)
     
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    As you can clearly see both sides play the same game, you get a chance check out this site, it will show just how well both sides and how regular folks get along politically

    Political Forums
     
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    Yes it will....because it is a huge success and helping millions
     
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    Either Republicans now continue to whine about the ACA they failed to repeal after seven years of practice, or they make the necessary modifications to the law that they had refused to make for seven years.

    If they think they can now withhold nourishment until it starves to death, they'll only hurt people on their watch, and will still have no serious replacement for it.

    Serve Americans. Make it work for everyone - not only for the tens of million who gained coverage through it, but for those for whom it didn't work.

    As a separate, long-overdue reform, take the shackles off Medicare and allow Rx prices to be negotiated. Big Pharma has successfully lobbied their legislative stooges for far too long in turning Americans into their cash cows.

    Failing to cover tens of millions while dumping their medical bills on the taxpayer, providing a huge annual taxpayer subsidy for folks covered through their employers, and paying twice as much as advanced nations that cover everybody (as Trump promised to do) is not a plan. It is a surrender - even if you beat yourself.

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    You hold that thought tight, because even the Democrats have realized that's not true ;)
     
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    Prove it. I await your evidence
     
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    Man that sounds like an ultimatum, lemme be the first to respond to your DEMANDS, NO we wont!
     
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    I disagree,I explained it,when you sign up for OBAMACARE you come to a point where you click on subsidies, the subsidies are based on your level of poverty,----You somehow, are still thinking that OBAMACARE is "just" for the poorer among us, that is incorrect---The whole premise of OBAMACARE is that if everyone were to sign up,nobody has to pay for anyone else & we all benefit with lower premiums, lower deductibles & quality Health Care
    Millions of us had Insurance before OBAMACARE,the reason for the high premiums, the high deductibles, the co-pays, the outrageous costs after the insurance company's 80/20 policy--was because "WE" were paying for the people that used the emergency room as their primary doctor because people could not afford insurance.
    If the Insurance Company's were not so greedy to begin with.the Government would not have had to get involved, so maybe your biggest beef is to the Insurance company's----just a thought!
     
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    Well while 2018 is a bit off, you can go look up Availability and affordability, lack of exchange option, lack of network choices and how many big ticket insurers have quit working with ACA patient period! Not to mention some of the most ridiculous out of pocket obligation known to modern man! Heck 2018 will be here before we know it ten or twelve BBQ's and it will jingles bell and a lot less ACA signup ;)
     

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