Obama's Birth Certificates are Fake

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  1. gamewell45

    gamewell45 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Contact President Trump; he has information proving that Obama wasn't born in this country; he said so during his campaign in 2016. If there is any funny business I'm sure that Trump can provide all the information you need to set the record straight.
     
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    I don't care about whether or not he was born in this country.

    I don't care what Trump said in 2016, but #FakeNews on that anyway.

    Go to the White House .gov website, download the official birth certificate, open it up in Adobe Illustrator and then come back and tell me you are convinced it is real.

    Hint: not one person has done this yet.
     
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    Produce the original paper form then we'll talk. I don't trust digital format of anything especially when they can be DOCTORED.
     
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    It's on White House .gov website put there by Obama and is still there! That is the only copy!
     
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    When you think of it; perhaps not one person has done this yet is most likely because so few people care at this stage. The man is out as president so what do they stand to gain?
     
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    Already debunked by Adobe specialists years ago as scanning artifacts. Get a new tin-foil theory already.
     
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    This Adobe expert, Mara Zebest, says it's an obvious fraud & she determined it in seconds.

     
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    And the Adobe programers who actually created Illustrator and Photoshop think she is full of crap. End of story.
     
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    All of them? Do any of them have names? Have they verified the authenticity of the birth certificates?
     
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    A panel of programers laughed it off at the Adobe MAX conference I attended in 2013. Think I'll trust them over your "expert".
    Move on, dude - it's over.
     
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    So none of them have names, none of them have verified the authenticity of the birth certificates, none of them have political conflicts, and none of them have even opened the birth certificates in Adobe Illustrator for all you know?
     
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    They scoffed at claiming you can check authenticity from a .pdf of a scan on Illustrator. Ain't going to happen. It creates artifacts because of the way Illustrator interprets scans of letters.
     
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    Remind me
    If obamas mom was a citizen
    And therefore obama is a citizen
    Why would it be necessary to fake a birth certificate
    And why in the world would the state of hawaii allow a fraud to be perpetrated?
    And why would the GOP run governments of various states allow the fraud....TWICE
    And for that matter, even trump had admitted he was wrong
    Certainly the effen president of the united states could get to the bottom of the fraud that you alledge
     
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    No it doesn't. It has never been duplicated
     
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    All good questions.

    Why has not one single person been show the actual piece of paper that is the birth certificate? Not one document examiner has ever laid eyes on it. The original. Why doesn't the State of Hawaii just make the original available to the public?
     
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    You should doubt it. The reason you aren't doubting it is because you are assuming his mother was an American citizen. BUT before and around the time he was born, his mother had traveled to parts of the world that U.S. citizens weren't allowed to travel (communist countries), and if they did so, there was a question of whether or not they forfeited their citizenship. A birth certificate from a U.S. state or territory puts that question to rest, as then he could just claim to be an anchor baby. If he was born in Kenya, as his brother and grandmother have said, then his mother's citizenship comes into legal question.
     
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    Actually, they do not do that for anybody.... presumably if you could obtain my birth certificate, a birth certificate is after all a fundamental form if id, and if you started handing them out at random it would presumably facilitate ID theft.

    But, i doubt that the state of texas would casually accept forged documents.,. Which according to you they clearly did do in order for obama to run for office there. Someone should go to jail or lose their job dont ya think? Why are the people of texas as outraged as citizens of the internet?
     
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    Asinine response on your part. The ORIGINAL is a paper document - so yes, it was scanned to digitize it (duplicated) to make a pdf.
    If you honestly think that the 50+ programmers at Adobe are inferior to your house wife illustrator, then you cannot be trusted to determine anything.
     
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    The President of the United States is not "anybody".
     
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    It doesn't leave the layers as you implied. That has been scientifically proven impossible and has never been duplicated.
     
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    No. It hasn't. Going to believe the programmers at Adobe rather than hacks on the internet. Sorry.
     
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    The states are responsible for preventing unqualified candidates on the ballot. They apparently would have the obligation to obtain the original birth certificate to fulfill their responsibility. Did texas do this. Dont the6 therefore have the original birth certificate in their files?
     
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    Actually, the only thing that (possibly) cannot be doctored would be the hospitals hand written record of live birth
     
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    I'm not here to argue what states do or don't do. Just the science which proves that the birth certificates are fakes.
     

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