Off the Chart Universal and Multiversal Models.

Quite as story. My NDE was not so dramatic. I just heard a 'voice' that said; 'do you want to die without knowing me', Everything was pitch black and I felt as if I were balancing on a 2x4 and could sense an abyss. There were things that looked dark gray, like water reflections on a surface all around me, not on me but around out for as far as I could see guessing maybe 40 meters before they faded out of existence. No bright lights etc.....I woke up in the trauma unit of a hospital (Holsten Valley Kingsport) where I remained for over a month.

reva

 

That is really a philosophical point, whether a photon truly "exists" at every point in it's wave function.

And in the broadest sense, the wave function actually encompasses a very large area, because do not forget the wave function is still correlated across time. Time really makes no difference, in one sense, that's why physicists sometimes refer to "time travel" in the context of entanglement.

All we can say is that it is as if the photon exists as a wave, when describing how that particle is going to behave.

That is one view. I'm not saying it's not valid, but there are more than one interpretation.
That is one of the interesting things, what scientists are observing is so bizarre that there are multiple different ways to interpret what is happening. None of them are really more valid than another.
It would be very difficult to put these views to the test (for example, it's not like we can go to one of these parallel universes, if they exist ).

We have mathematical equations that describe what is happening, but these equations do not really mean anything. Humans are always searching to attach meaning to things.

 

That sounds very much like the first part of the NDE experience that many have that has came to be termed The Void.

I read this article for the first time about a month or so ago and I thought that it was exceptionally good.

http://www.near-death.com/experiences/research15.html

The Void and the Near-Death Experience

 

I pulled up the site and read the first four or five paragraphs then 'sped read' the rest (I am pushed for time this morn). It was a very interesting site, definitely worth more investigation when time allows. That void sounds similar to 'where' I was. In real life standing in total darkness, balancing on the 2" side of a 2x4 with barely visible things like water reflecting on a wall or ceiling undulating floating around me would be terrifying! I wasn't scared although I could sense the canyon like abyss below and beside and above me. Well let me backtrack a bit I wasn't scared until I heard the 'voice' that questioned me. I don't expect many to believe me, or those that like me probably think my brain was dying from lack of O2. There is a chance of the NDE being just that. But it changed me no matter what it was. I wish everyone could experience a real NDE, not one of those hokey God experience helmets that shoot electromagnetic radiation into the brain etc. Anyway God bless this forum~

reva

 

The NDE of Bruce F. MacDonald Ph. D. is now my number one favorite. It took him a couple of decades to figure out how to practically duplicate the NDE type of consciousness through meditation............. and his book about this is certainly the simplest and most practical form that I have ever attempted.

At the time that I began his other book I could not hardly imagine a time when any NDE account surpassed that of Christian Andreason in its ability to straighten out my messed up thought patterns...… but......… it did just that!

http://www.thomastwin.com/10 A Background to Silence.html

I just finished reading chapter 5 in the Google version.....

http://www.amazon.ca/The-Prayer-Silence-Spiritual-Transformation/dp/1609115740

 

Rev....the Equations necessary to define the sharing of Infinite Universal Positional Expansion States being shared by Infinite in number Divergent Universal States of Reality must first define how many Geometric States of Uiversal Space-Time EXIST...BEFORE....any actual equations can be written as DEFINITION OF PARAMETERS OR LACK OF PARAMETERS OR SCOPE OF PARAMETERS OR GEOMETRY OF SUCH SPACE-TIME GEOMETRY.....must first be defined.

As we have not yet even defined any of this as of yet.....any attempt at actually developing Mathematical Equations to represent what I am describing is simply a waste of time.

It's like this.....

You come across a multitude of ALIEN NUMERICAL INSIGNIA'S.

Now....you have a large number of these supposed ALIEN GEOMETRIC REPRESENTATIONS OF NUMBERS.

You go through all of them and discover that there seems to be 21 different representations.

Then you compare this with our Human system with 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9.......thus you see there are 10 specific numerical representations and you quickly figure out that Human's have a BASE TEN NUMERICAL SYSTEM.

Why??? And why is this easy to figure out??

Because no matter what the number.....2....4......7.......10...11....29....100.....289....590.....1200.....every progression to a number that has 2 numbers.....24.....42.....you see....as an alien....you could not know for certain without more data if 24 equalled 24 or 42....or if 42 equalled 24 or 42.

More than that....in an alien system they could be using a base 12 system...or base 20...or base 13...etc.

Without knowing the KEY or having the ROSETTA STONE...that allows such Mathematical Equations to be written....it is but a wste of time.

EXAMPLE......Calculations of the Great Pyramid of Giza

In order to calculate the length of a Solar Year from one Winter Solstice to the next one needs to calculate the Precession of the Earth’s Axis relative to a Sidereal Year. Firstly, one needs to allow for the change in rotation rate of the Earth due to Tidal Friction that was stated earlier as 2.3 Milliseconds per Day per Century. As stated earlier this accounts for 38.3 seconds or .000443 days. Additionally we must take into account that the orbit of the Earth has changed over time by a total of 24.3 Seconds or .000281 days over the last 4560 years as was stated earlier.

Therefore we may add these values to the length of the Sidereal and Mean Tropical Years of the present period as follows:

Present Sidereal Year
Change in Rotation Period
Sidereal Year 2560 B.C.
365.256363 days
+ 365.256363 days
= 365.256806 days
Present Mean Tropical Year
Change in Rotation Period
Change in Rotation Period
Mean Tropical Year 2560 B.C.
365.242189 days
+ .000443 days
+ .000281 days
= 365.242913 days

With this known one may use the following equation to determine the difference in time between the Sidereal Year and a Winter Solstice Year in the period of 2560 B.C. :

LINK.....http://thegreatpyramidofgiza.ca/content/

These Calculations would be IMPOSSIBLE if we had no reference in this case.....THE GREAT PYRAMID AT GIZA....to use as a template to develop such equations.

Same thing with what you are asking of me.

AboveAlpha

 

Well....we KNOW that Photons exists and we KNOW they exists as both Particle and Wave at least in this our ONE Divergent Universal State of Reality.

If they did not...then there would be no FREQUENCY...no COLOR....no X-Ray....IR-Light...UV-Light...etc.

The real question is.....is it that the Photon is existing within the WAVE PACKET IN AN NT...NO TIME...STATE....which allows it to exist at all points of possible position at the same time....OR.....is there INFINITE PHOTONS.....existing and sharing a COMMONALITY OF CONVERGENT MULTIVERSAL SPACE-TIME?

Either way...it's one HELL of a question!!

As far as QUANTUM ENTANGLEMENT......think more along the PRACTICAL USE OF IT IN QUANTUM COMPUTERS AND PROCESSORS.

Quantum teleportation is a process by which quantum information (e.g. the exact state of an atom or photon) can be transmitted (exactly, in principle) from one location to another, with the help of classical communication and previously shared quantum entanglement between the sending and receiving location. Because it depends on classical communication, which can proceed no faster than the speed of light, it cannot be used for superluminal transport or communication of classical bits. It also cannot be used to make copies of a system, as this violates the no-cloning theorem. Although the name is inspired by the teleportation commonly used in fiction, current technology provides no possibility of anything resembling the fictional form of teleportation. While it is possible to teleport one or more qubits of information between two (entangled) atoms,[1][2][3] this has not yet been achieved between molecules or anything larger. One may think of teleportation either as a kind of transportation, or as a kind of communication; it provides a way of transporting a qubit from one location to another, without having to move a physical particle along with it.

LINK....http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_teleportation

AboveAlpha

 

Wga...nice catch!!!

You figured out something that I have posted the same exact problem to others who keep telling me that their GOD......knows all....sees all....does all.....knows past, present and future and everything is by GOD'S PLAN!!!

I tried to explain something to them they didn't understand at all BUT YOU DID JUST RIGHT IN WHAT YOU POSTED!!!

You posted.....as it applies to our conversation of Mulitiversal Theory you posted....."We won't be able to study it all because we don't have the storage capacity for that. Well, perhaps there's a way to treat the multiverse itself as the storage device. Since it's all already there. But doing so requires the means of performing searches on the actual physical medium. First it needs to be possible, and second it requires top-level knowledge of such a thing."....end quote Wgabrie.


YOU GET IT!!!!

You see....in order for there to exists a GOD existing in the manner that such a GOD knows everything and created everything and has everything running according to a PLAN.....this would mean a few things.

#1. If you could know the position of every single Particle/Wave Form in the Universe then YOU COULD KNOW EVERY SINGLE FUTURE ACTION AND REACTION THAT WOULD EVER OCCUR IN THAT ONE PARTICULAR UNIVERSE.

#2. The DATA STORAGE ALONE based upon the smallest possible scale...the Quantum Scale....and even if a smaller scale existed....it WOULD STILL NEED A DATA STORAGE VOLUME EQUAL TO THE UNIVERSE ITSELF never mind any other existing BLEEDLING INTO OUR UNIVERSAL REALITY ALTERNATE DIVERGENT UNIVERSAL STATES.

#3. I am PROUD OF YOU!!!

This is not a concept 99.999999% of people could understand nor would they even understand AFTER a person tried to explain it to them!!!

AboveAlpha

 

As we know any OBSERVATION of the Robotic Manufacturing of a QUANTUM PROCESSOR will render such a Quantum System unable to work thus worthless.

Even if Robotic Construction is viewed by a DIGITAL VIDEO CAMERA.....if the Video is NEVER WATCHED....the Quantum Computers will work....and let's say after 3 years of such Quantum Systems working and calculating and computing JOE JANITOR.....put's in a DVD that has written on it....DP VIOLA.....which this Janitor thinks is a DOUBLE PENETRATION VIDEO OF SOME PORN STAR NAMED VIOLA......but in reality DP stands for Digital Program.....VIOLA....stands for Video Internal Orchestration Lambert Algorithm.

ALL OF A SUDDEN.....WORLDWIDE.....AS THIS JANITOR WATCHES THE PARTIAL CONSTRUCTION OF 20 QUANTUM PROCESSORS IN VARIOUS STATES OF CONSTRUCTION.....ALL 40 OF THESE $170 MILLION A PIECE QUANTUM PROCESSORS STOPS WORKING!!!

Now.....can anyone here explain why?

I know why.

AboveAlpha

 

Is that because there's an entangled connection of particles linking the original event to the current viewing of it? It's going through the video equipment?

And then there's a non-local element that means the construction gets observed. And there's a local time element so it stops working at the moment it's viewed.

 

Well.....the best expalination I can give...and this is only OPINION as NO ONE KNOWS FOR CERTAIN.....is that for whatever reason....the intruduction of a CONSCIOUS OBSERVER.....LOCKS IN THE FUNCTION AND VALUE OF ALL QUANTA THAT IS A PART OF A QUANTUM PROCESSOR....if observed during construction....having it's sealed case cracked open and observed rendering it useless years after construction....or in this case some Janitor watching a DIGITAL VIDEO....that the moment he saw the Quantum Processors in various states of construction and all open and not sealed....3 years later after the fact....they ALL CEASED WORKING AT THE MOMENT HE OBSERVED THAT DIGITAL TAPE 3 YEARS LATER!!

This means something.

It means....OBSERVATION BY A CONSCIOUS BEING...even a FLY.....locks in the Quantum Particle/Wave Forms INTO THIS AND ONLY THIS ONE REALITY!!!

Prior to observation....they can exists in all realities is a state of SUPERPOSITION!!!


Shrody's....CAT IN THE BOX!!!


But once observed....they are INTRINSICALLY ALWAYS LINKED TO THIS AND ONLY THIS REALITY and can no longer exist in all states of reality.

AboveAlpha

 

That's not really entirely true. The wave behavior describes how the particle will behave, but we cannot absolutely be certain whether the wave actually "exists". That is my perspective, at least.

What does it mean for something to exist ?

We can certainly say that observable reality is correlated to the wave-like behavior, but we never actually directly observe the waves themselves, if that makes sense.

 

It is indeed a mystery.

But consciousness is a curious thing. It can collapse observed quantum particle/wave forms, yet it's source can be observed as well, such as with brain imaging techniques, and continues to function.

Brain cells don't need to be sealed to function.

 

Well....look at it this way.

Let's look at the word....FREQUENCY.

Now this is the basic definition.

Frequency Definition

Noun

1. The property or condition of occurring at frequent intervals. 2. The number of times a specified periodic phenomenon occurs within a specified interval, as. 3. The number of repetitions of a complete sequence of values of a periodic function per unit variation of an independent variable.

Now....we will get more specific.

Frequency is the number of occurrences of a repeating event per unit time.[1] It is also referred to as temporal frequency, which emphasizes the contrast to spatial frequency and angular frequency. The period is the duration of time of one cycle in a repeating event, so the period is the reciprocal of the frequency.[2] For example, if a newborn baby's heart beats at a frequency of 120 times a minute, its period – the interval between beats – is half a second (60 seconds (i.e. a minute) divided by 120 beats). Frequency is an important parameter used in science and engineering to specify the rate of oscillatory and vibratory phenomena, such as mechanical vibrations, audio (sound) signals, radio waves, and light.

LINK....http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frequency

Now if we get more specific....

Calculating the frequency of a repeating event is accomplished by counting the number of times that event occurs within a specific time period, then dividing the count by the length of the time period. For example, if 71 events occur within 15 seconds the frequency is: f=71/15s...thus 4.7 Hz.

If the number of counts is not very large, it is more accurate to measure the time interval for a predetermined number of occurrences, rather than the number of occurrences within a specified time.[4] The latter method introduces a random error into the count of between zero and one count, so on average half a count. This is called gating error and causes an average error in the calculated frequency of Δf = 1/(2 Tm), or a fractional error of Δf / f = 1/(2 f Tm) where Tm is the timing interval and f is the measured frequency. This error decreases with frequency, so it is a problem at low frequencies where the number of counts N is small.

Higher frequencies are usually measured with a frequency counter. This is an electronic instrument which measures the frequency of an applied repetitive electronic signal and displays the result in hertz on a digital display. It uses digital logic to count the number of cycles during a time interval established by a precision quartz time base. Cyclic processes that are not electrical in nature, such as the rotation rate of a shaft, mechanical vibrations, or sound waves, can be converted to a repetitive electronic signal by transducers and the signal applied to a frequency counter. Frequency counters can currently cover the range up to about 100 GHz. This represents the limit of direct counting methods; frequencies above this must be measured by indirect methods.

Heterodyne Methods
Above the range of frequency counters, frequencies of electromagnetic signals are often measured indirectly by means of heterodyning (frequency conversion). A reference signal of a known frequency near the unknown frequency is mixed with the unknown frequency in a nonlinear mixing device such as a diode. This creates a heterodyne or "beat" signal at the difference between the two frequencies. If the two signals are close together in frequency the heterodyne is low enough to be measured by a frequency counter. This process only measures the difference between the unknown frequency and the reference frequency, which must be determined by some other method. To reach higher frequencies, several stages of heterodyning can be used. Current research is extending this method to infrared and light frequencies (optical heterodyne detection).

Frequency of Waves
For periodic waves in nondispersive media (that is, media in which the wave speed is independent of frequency), frequency has an inverse relationship to the wavelength, λ (lambda). Even in dispersive media, the frequency f of a sinusoidal wave is equal to the phase velocity v of the wave divided by the wavelength λ of the wave:

f=v/λ`


In the special case of electromagnetic waves moving through a vacuum, then v = c, where c is the speed of light in a vacuum, and this expression becomes:

f=c/λ`


When waves from a monochrome source travel from one medium to another, their frequency remains the same—only their wavelength and speed change.

Continued.....AboveAlpha

 

By the way, thanks for the pat on the back. I appreciate it.

Now see? Sometimes I do get stuff. Although I'll probably say something stupid later.

You know, I once swam through a mud puddle. ← There got it out of the way!

(Although, you know who I have to thank for most of this right? You!)

 

There are aspects of the Human Brain that allow a CHOICE to be made..... A COMPLETELY ARBITRARY CHOICE!!!

The ONLY possible way this is possible is because there are aspects of our Human Brains that work in a Quantum Manner.

INDETERMINANCY.......SUPERPOSITION.....VALUE AND FUNCTION NOT YET LOCKED IN....is what allows a HUMAN BEING...to be driving down the road and this person KNOWS they are 2 hours LATE for their Sisters DIRT BAG BOYFRIENDS BIRTHDAY PARTY....where this CHEAP SOB revels in the great gifts the families give him all the while his HOME BAR consists of a 30 Pack of CANNED BEER.....STROUGHS.....a BOX OF MERLOT......and some APRICOT BRANDY....1/4 full...that has been around since the NIXON ADMINISTRATION!!

The Human Being Driving comes to the end of the road and this person KNOWS....they must take a left to get to this SISTERS IDIOT BOYFRIENDS HOME.....this Human Being also knows if they take a RIGHT.....they will drive right toward this really good STRIP CLUB......and across the street is but a DIRT ROAD that is not lit and the person driving has no idea where it goes.

YET....this Human Being.....DRIVES STRAIGHT!!!

Why?

How?

AboveAlpha

 

Well, brain matter isn't my cup of tea. But about a year ago I read about quantum vibrations of microtubules in the brain. It would suggest that part of the brain is quantum in nature.

Discovery of quantum vibrations in 'microtubules' corroborates theory of consciousness

 

BINGO!!!!

AboveAlpha

 

Did you know about it already, or not?

 

I actually already posted about it.

You can run a search to check.

AboveAlpha

 

Oh, I think it was the second half (updated) of Post 479 of the Thread: Why computers* will not become self aware.

 

Yeah...I think that's where I posted it.

It doesn't matter that I posted it before....it ONLY MATTERS that YOU WGABRIE.....UNDERSTAND IT AND POSTED ABOUT IT!!!

I am very happy watching you progress and you are progressing in a VERY positive way!!

AboveAlpha

 

Oh, well thank you.

Okay, so we have the multiverse and we have consciousness, are there any other keys to this puzzle?

 

Pizza and Beer!

And the Loving of a warm good looking woman who has little inhibitions!

Or if your Gay...whatever floats your boat!!

AboveAlpha

 

So in other words get a life? LOL