On balance, which is better for the people

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Is a Capitalist or Socialist system better.

  1. Capitalism

  2. Capitalism with a hint of Socialism

  3. Socialism

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  1. cd8ed

    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It is not socialism it’s compassionate market based economy. you are welcome
     
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    Badaboom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    A turd by any other name still smell like ****...
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What we are doing no is no longer working. We have states with infant mortality rates that rival some third word nations, we have the most expensive healthcare on the planet but our level of care drops every year, our educational attainment drops every year, life expectancy is stagnant or dropping, class mobility is stagnant, income inequality is at levels not seen previously, our national deficit is at unsustainable levels, we have children not being allowed to graduate because they owe money to eat, not to mention our entire economy is being propped up by fed cash injections and marginal interest rates.
     
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    And socialism isn't the cure for any of that. All of those were amplified in country where socialism was attempted.
    Infant mortality rates in western country is mostly due to life choice (drug use, alcoholism, bad nutrition, career choice). Health care can be reorganized if done properly, not with an half assed method like Obama care. Most capitalist country on earth have adopted a single payer model + private option, it's only the USA that sems incapable to do it. Education, especially higher education is now a joke and that's not the fault of capitalism but is in fact the result of having to many people who lean socialist in teaching position. They work to destroy the system not to build upon it. Life expectancy has a limit. You have an expiratioin date, every living being does. Class mopbility and income innequality aren't fixed by socialism, unless you mean everybody move to the bottom and earn the same meager survival based salary. Your child don't need a diploma to work, they need skills. Stop wasting money sending them to college and send them to trade school instead.
     
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    DUHH, he said he hated socialism so I made a point that Social Security is socialism and since he hated socialism he should send his check to me....
     
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    I note that you don't mention how it can be solved.
     
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    Since we are playing the cliche game..

    Famous last words..
     
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    LOL!!!!!

    of yeah that changes everything...
     
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    Actually it does

    You have to keep the bastards in fear of losing thier jobs and that means no absolute party loyalty
     
  10. Bowerbird

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    Australia is and always has been waaaay more socialist than America
     
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    That's true with any type of government.

    That's the great thing about our second ammendment. They don't just need to fear for their jobs they need to fear for their lives.
    Our constitution gives we the people the responsibility of securing the freedom of our state. And who among wants to take that responsibility away fro. The American people? Socialists.
     
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    Great for Australia!

    We have more than 10 times your population.
     
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    If i knew that I would try to become a policy maker and not some anonymous forum poster when I am bored.

    Step one would be figuring out what works both here and in other countries — and what doesn’t.
    Actually, step one is admitting we have an issue.
     
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    So?
     
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    Yeah! About that......

    When are you going to march on the government?
     
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    As soon as the boomers lose their socialist retirement pensions.
     
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    So governing 300 million with

    When they violate the bill of rights.
     
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    Trump already has by attacking the press

    When are you going to march down the road with your gun?
     
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    He hasn't attacked the press at all he has every right to be angry about how the press lies about him and responding only verbally in manner fully commensurate with their scumbaggery.

    If anything the commies/ socialist/Democrats making unconstitutional gun laws. Is why the march will happen
     
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    What is an “unconstitutional gun law”? One that keeps guns out of the hands of criminals and mass murderers?
     
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    Nope. No laws at all do that... besides they aren't criminals or mass murderers until they actually do something and taking away their rights before they do is wrong
     
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    So, you are satisfied with a high firearm morbidity and mortality? You cannot be happy so many die each year from guns

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    Nice misrepresentation. First you talk about criminals and mass murderers then post gun death statistics which include suicide.

    Besides the given right to self protection is not limited by how many people are killed by people with guns. Also the amount of people murdered with guns is a direct reflection of liberal policies in minority communities.
     
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    Nice new and cuddly words how sweet.

    Hey I thought the left doesn't try changing words?
     
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    That wasn't a point, that was trying for outright theft
     

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