On terrorism, why you should never listen to the liberals

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  1. FixingLosers

    FixingLosers New Member

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    In this video posted 2 years ago, TYT lashed out on discrimination against Muslims. According to them, the more pressure you apply on them, the more blow back you get.

    They mentioned France and NYPD and of course, China.

    The ultimate irony is, France was attacked repeatedly, NY was attacked in 2001 after which the NYPD formed a special branch, and America had several Islamic terrorist attack afterwards. The only country free from attack for the last 2 years was China, which clearly tightened up their security measures... against the Muslims. They very much have racial and religious profiling, all the doomsday stuff liberals warned against.

    I'm not saying we should copy what China's been doing, I'm saying we should clearly not do what the liberals tell us.
     
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    9royhobbs Well-Known Member

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    If you're not saying we should copy China and you're saying we should clearly not do what liberals tell us what do you want us to do?
     
  3. US Conservative

    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The lefty reply to islamic terror...its not that bad, get used to it.
     
  4. Questerr

    Questerr Banned

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    More like "it's not so bad that we need to adopt fascism like the Right wants us to do".
     
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    Doug_yvr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Terrorist attacks in China
    2015: 16

    2016 attacks included an attack June 18 where 4 men killed 29 and injured 130 at a railway station. Somehow the OP missed this one. Guess he was busy looking for the missing video for his post.
     
  6. FixingLosers

    FixingLosers New Member

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    Like, halt the Muslim immigration until we figure out a not so completely dumb and disastrous method?
     
  7. creation

    creation New Member

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    Im a liberal and I don't care about liberties for Muslims really.

    So I'm listening what would you recommend?
     
  8. Questerr

    Questerr Banned

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    Disastrous? How many terrorist attacks in the US have been carried out by Muslim refugees or unvetted immigrants?
     
  9. FixingLosers

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    What's the percentage of terrorist acts carried out by Muslims in the US?
     
  10. FixingLosers

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    Well, a few things we can do:

    A. Halt the muslim immigration. Note I mean Muslim immigration, not Middle-eastern immigration. If you were a Christian or an Atheist, come to study in our universities. We can't be all that indiscriminatory.

    B. Deportation. If there is a terrorist in your family, sorry sweetie, all of you gotta leave.

    C. High rewards for informants. Your friend Khalim is behaving strange lately and viewing extremist contents? Collect evidence and send it to the FBI, and off you go with a handsome reward of $100,000 and more.

    D. Religious profiling * databasing. No need to say more.

    E. Muslim Gun Regulation. Make sure it is incredibly difficult for a Muslim to obtain a firearm.

    F. Regular mental health checks and ideology inquiry. "So, how is everything back in Yemen? What do you think about Iran's supreme leader Khamenei? How do you feel about Assad? Do you dislike intensely ISIS? Where do you think the terrorists will go, after they blew themselves up in a car-bombing?

    Is America a free society? Yes it is. Is America an inclusive society? Yes it is. But only to the point that there isn't a notable tendency of members from your group committing mass murders.
     
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    Questerr Banned

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    A considerable number of them are not carried out by immigrants.
     
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    9royhobbs Well-Known Member

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    Oh, like China
    Nice you picked a country that no one wants to immigrate to anyway.
     
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    Doug_yvr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How's that video coming along? How about the fact you said China had no terrorist attacks for 2 years and they in fact have?
     
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    Agreed. This is not a liberal/conservative issue, this is an American/jihadi issue. I agree with all the suggestions offered by FL. Let's watch and see how France, an extremely liberal place, responds to being repeatedly attacked and having to deal with the senseless murder of innocent people. These Muslim nutcases attack we in the west in response to our openness, our inclusiveness, our rights and our principles. Islamic terrorists need to understand that there is a limit to our patience, and that we understand who we are, who they are, and why they've chosen to go to war against us. As we've shown in the past, while we are a peace loving people whose country provides a beacon of hope to the entire world, if you want a fight, we will give you a fight.

    Be careful putting forth these kinds of arguments, because you need to realize that on September 10th, 2001, you could have asked a similar question: "How many people have used planes as missiles to kill large numbers of people?"
     
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    I heard on NPR this morning that they are still planning to bring in 850,000 Muslim refugees next year. That is about 17,000 for each state.

    Compare this with our numbers in the military for 2016:

    "Active duty U.S. military personnel from 1950 to 2003. The two peaks correspond to the Korean War and the Vietnam War. The projected active duty end strength in the armed forces for FY 2016 was 1,301,300 people, with an additional 811,000 people in the seven reserve components."--Wikipedia


    In other words, they are planning to bring in almost as many followers of a conflicting culture as we have in our National Guard right now.

    How stupid do we have to be to see that nothing but a total administration change will stop this? Even now, it may be too late, as the planning has already been placed in the hand of SJW agencies that do not involve the destination localities' governments in their planning.

    Just this morning I heard the results of this on one of our nearby cities--the city of Lancaster is being sued by the ACLU for their (costly) placement of six older refugee students because of a social worker's complaint:

    "Walczak says he's representing six student refugees against the School District of Lancaster and believes about 30 are enrolled at Phoenix Academy, an alternative school described as an accelerated credit program for students at risk for not graduating on time.

    The problem might go beyond refugees, Walczak says, affecting other students who are between the ages of 17 and 21, lack English skills or both. But it was a refugee caseworker who first alerted him after observing some patterns:

    The district is accused of turning away student refugees in their late teens, delaying enrollment by weeks or months rather than the five days allotted by state law, or automatically sending them to Phoenix, even though students are supposed to go through a process — including a hearing with parents — before they go to Phoenix.

    And, maybe, it's linked to pressure to keep up graduation rates.

    Superintendent Damaris Rau, who says she's aware of the potential lawsuit, addressed the caseworker's claims.

    Rau says the same English language instruction's available at Phoenix as Lancaster's McCaskey High School."

    http://crossroads.newsworks.org/ind...t-brewing-over-refugee-education-in-lancaster

    https://www.google.com/webhp?source...ancaster+pa+lawsuit+by+ACLU+refugee+education

    This issue soon to be replayed in school taxing districts all over the US...but they've already been brainwashed by the Koran anyway, so why bother? Keep them out. Bring in minorities that don't hate us, instead, like Christians.
     
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    Questerr Banned

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    So when are you going to break into the National Archives so you can take a (*)(*)(*)(*) directly on the Constitution?
     
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    Fascinating.

    Does that mean deport the entire extended family? Would you stretch to the whole neighbouring Muslim community?

    The Japanese were all interned. Would you think about that too?

    Is it okay to support the actions of the Iranian government?
     
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    We can't try to stop terrorism or we'll just get more terrorism!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Uh, this is how liberals view terrorism.)
     
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    A 2009 study done by the Pew Research Center, based on China's census, concluded there are 21,667,000 Muslims in China.
     
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    OK, 1.7% of their population. We have .9% of our population......so what
     
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    Figure and source please, since the Haymarket Riot, shall we? I'm being fair.
     
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    Now now, let's not get drastic. If carrying all of themn is difficult, let's make sure as many of them get carried out as possible.
     
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    The most important thing is going to be to stop intervening in the middle east. It might be hard to do that before ISIS is defeated, though. But our intervention got us into that mess. As to domestic policy, that really is harder to say what is ideal. Stopping the immigration of muslims doesn't do much, because most of the terrorists haven't been 1st generation immigrants in America. And a policy that ostracizes the ones already here is going to help radicalize them. Their current radicalization is a product of ISIS propaganda and our intervention in the middle east, however. So domestic policy... we really have no easy answers. Foreign policy is hard in the short term but easy in the long term. We need to disengage from the middle east.
     
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    America listened to what Republicans told us back in the year 2000 and elected GW Bush, Guess what happened, 9/11/2001 HAPPENED, The worst attack on American soil in the History of our Great nation, SO! don't try and blow Smoke up our ********s and pretend Republicans are somehow the experts in keeping America safe from TERRORISTS :roll:
     
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    Orlando, Fort Hood, Camp Pennsylvania, San Bernardino, Belt Way Snipers, Washington Naval Yard, Little Rock, all attack committed by American citizens born in the United States.

    And that doesn't even include attacks by non-Muslims.

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    Almost none of them. Nearly everything you listed violates the 14th Amendment.
     

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