One question for Christians and one for Muslims neither can answer

I'm not so sure about Paul.

The ideas he came up with concerning the government of Rome seem novel and likely to be an attempt at pitching his religion as not being a threat to the government there.

It failed, of course.

 

You can repeat that all day, it is false. You might as well claim that Jesus was an alien from another planet.

 

Paul was not the slightest bit interested in government, other than one
should obey it. The Gospel made no claim on government like the Old
Testament did to Israel. The New Testament is completely "other worldly"
What we see in the rise of Catholicism is down to the exercise of power,
not the exercise of scripture.

 

What direction is that?
Some say that Paul brought law into what was grace under Jesus.
But half of what Jesus said was about law, and half of what Paul
wrote was about law too.

 

Sola fide.

Jesus vs. Paul


Introduction

Controversy has arisen regarding Jesus versus Paul as scholars debate the different emphases and messages of Jesus and Paul.1 Jesus preached the kingdom of heaven. Paul did not. Paul preached justification by faith alone. Jesus did not. What are we to make of this? Can the two be reconciled? The answer depends on what is meant by reconciliation.
https://doctrine.org/jesus-vs-paul

 

Not much daylight between these two men.
I counted Jesus' sayings vs Pauls.

Jesus:
23% of Matthew's Gospel is concerned with works.
20% of Mark's Gospel is concerned with works.
26% of Luke's Gospel is concerned with works.
8% of John's Gospel is concerned with works.

Paul:
65% of Romans is concerned with works.
45% of Ephesians is concerned with works.
72% of Titus is concerned with works.
72% of 1 Corinthians is concerned with works.
48% of 2 Corinthians is concerned with works.
58% of Philippians' is concerned with works.

Any discrepancy here would be due to Jesus'
preaching of the Gospel to strangers, whereas
Paul is speaking to his church.
Jesus in Revelation is solely concerned about
the Works of the Seven Churches.

 

How do you "qualify" to be a layman?

And yes, people question my credentials all the time, and it's usually athieist/leftist types who need to make themselves feel like they are better than I am, but they do that with most people.

And I have given my reason for believing both Luke and Paul were apostles, I can't help it if you don't define "apostle" as I do.

 

Creation and sin are not equal. Creating a new life far outweighs any act of sin and takes priority over the sin. Sex outside of marriage may be a sin in the Bible, but not to God.

 

No you have not.
What you believe is irrelevant. Maybe it's why your credentials are always questioned. You make up your very own religion and beliefs. Not a problem, just state, you are not a main christian.

 

I have, either you can't read or you can't understand. And you are incredibly naive, there are priests who don't even believe in God but they are still priests, I'll bet you don't even know any, but you do have an exaggerated opinion of yourself.

 

Why does the church put up with that?

 

I've heard it said that atheists and other activist types have been trying to infiltrate the Church for decades. Is it true? I don't know about that part, but if you are familiar with the Nicene Creed (which we say in the middle of every Mass) there is a part in the Creed that goes: "Who, for us men for our salvation, came down from heaven, and was incarnate by the Holy Spirit of the virgin Mary, and was made man; and was crucified also for us under Pontius Pilate; He suffered and was buried; and the third day He rose again, according to the Scriptures; and ascended into heaven, and sits on the right hand of the Father; and He shall come again, with glory, to judge the quick and the dead; whose kingdom shall have no end."

The Episcopal Church had a Priest who not only denied that Jesus was born of a virgin, suffered, died, and rose again. They made him a Bishop. His name was John Shelby Spong. The Archbishop of the Episcopal Church of America once said that "Jesus doesn't save you, diversity saves you". Her name was Katharine Schori.

I think the atheist priest's name was Don Cupitt, who doesn't believe in God but tries to live a moral life.

And these are high profile people, they're hard to ignore. What this tells me is that the Anglican Church at large cares more about politics than Christianity.

 

Who gives a damn? Christians actually believe children - CHILDREN - are born unclean and in need of washing away of a sin. What a disgusting, grotesque, hideous ideology. Makes me ****ing ill.