only 40% of grads found good "college jobs"

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  1. crank

    crank Well-Known Member

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    Not self-funded? With a law degree?
     
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    Or a degree in pure math. You can teach. Or you can actually apply it to the real world but in some other field.
     
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    Just about anything in STEM will serve you well. Few exceptions, but otherwise it's always a better choice.

    Unless your love of 17thC French Poetry supersedes the need to feed your children, of course.
     
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    Well, for me, learn a skill first then use it to put yourself through college and/or feed your family. That’s what I did.

    My major was pure math.
     
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    Same. My husband, also.
     
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    a worthless law degree
     
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    It's a great shame, that a once highly regarded profession has come to this.

    My father in law was a Silk (Barrister/Wig), and I clearly remember the days when he was treated as a sort of god.
     
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    The pure math helped with software design which I now do.
     
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    Yup. Medicine. EVERYONE should study medicine.
     
  10. crank

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    Where did I say that?

    There are a range of other STEM courses which bring the jobs and the good money.
     
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    Yup. I remember as a young child watching the Eichmann trials on tv - that's what made me want to be a lawyer. After 20 years of trying to get there, everything fell apart. When kids in the ghetto see what happened to me, they decide to drop out of school and give up on advancing in life. It sure is a cruel world out there.
     
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    Well there is a saying that if a lawyer fell overboard that the sharks would not touch out of professional courtesy. My uncle was a well respected lawyer when he passed away that put himself through college after serving in WWII as a Silver Star recipient in the Battle of the Bulge. My grandparents before that worried he would not amount to much.
     
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    Not to dismiss your life story (which I appreciate hearing about, FTR), but I'm actually reading a book about a clever lawyer in Henry 8's London. He's talented, but reluctant to rise through the ranks at Lincoln's Inn, and takes off-piste pro-bono jobs for the LOLs. A sort of medieval 'Suits', if you will.
     
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    the best thing to do is to put a final end to the myth that college is a guarantee of future economic success - close down the colleges for about four years so that those with worthless degrees can get jobs and direct others to real jobs where they earn real money rather than go into debt for nothing

    if the bankers don't like it when students no longer go into debt let them go to hades where they belong
     
  17. kazenatsu

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    That's sort of the Catch-22 isn't it?

    Many are hoping a college degree will be the thing that lands them the foot in the door.
     
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    Wouldn't be a bad idea. There's a desperate shortage of tradesmen, also. Funds could be redirected from colleges to trade schools.
     
  19. Mr_Truth

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    shortage of tradesmen?
    which trades? how many need college or degrees?
     
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    In my country .. carpenters, electricians, and plumbers. The demand far outstrips the supply.
     
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    how long ago was this? what was the economy like at the time and for job opportunities in general?
     
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    where I live a law degree is easy ticket into law enforcement/police $100K per year... with a very nice pension...
     
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    job shortages and surpluses are cyclical and tied to the global economy... I lived through periods where tradesman couldn't find a job and other times there were shortages and they were in demand and commanded top dollar and the same occurs for Uni grad positions...but in the long term Uni grads still have the best opportunities for a stable job with good pay...
     
  24. Mr_Truth

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    Ok, thought you were referring to USA
     
  25. Mr_Truth

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    31 years ago
    but people today still have the same problem
     

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