[Opinion poll] What is your view of democracy ?

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What is your view of democracy ?

  1. Democracy is the best kind of governement !

    2 vote(s)
    28.6%
  2. Democracy itself is good, but nowodays democracy has to change (and I say how in the comments)

    1 vote(s)
    14.3%
  3. Democracy is a flawed way of ruling people, but there is no true alternative

    2 vote(s)
    28.6%
  4. Democracy is a poor way to rule people and I think there is a better way (I tell it in the comments)

    2 vote(s)
    28.6%
  1. VotreAltesse

    VotreAltesse Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Hello,

    A simple poll about democracy to know your opinions about it.

    I voted for the third option "democracy is flawed but with no better alternative".
     
  2. Baff

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    If it is working for me, I'm up for it.
    If it isn't I am not.

    I like the ideal of it.
    I would prefer to have it than not.
    But I am not married to it.

    Currently I don't think I have it in my country.
    I am in the process of trying to get it.

    How will this be achieved?
    I'm not sure it will be achieved peacefully.
    I don't think it is peacefully possible to hold politicians and their governments to account for their electoral manifesto's.
    I hope it will be, I want it to be, but I don't believe it is.
     
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  3. nationalism

    nationalism Newly Registered

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    Democracy is an autocratic disease that promotes individualism and a degradation of the state to further "liberal values" and usually (especially in the US) leads to a two party tyranny. An Dictatorial government with some level of constitution is inherently better. Many more points I'd like to discuss but will keep it related only to this
     
  4. Meta777

    Meta777 Moderator Staff Member

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    I don't believe that there are any systems out there which are superior to democracy.
    But there are certainly a myriad of ways that democratic systems can be improved.
    It is a good idea to have a constitution be a part of your democratic system.
    Beyond that, probably the number one most effective way to improve
    democratic systems... is to stop using Plurality election methods
    and to start using more Ranked systems instead;
    ideally, a Condorcet method like Ranked Pairs, or
    a close approximation such as Instant Runoff.

    The reason for the two-party stranglehold in the U.S. isn't because of democracy.
    Its because for some reason we persist in using the antiquated Plurality method for our elections.
    Which of course leads to things like spoilers, tactical voting, lack of viable third parties, and all sorts of nonsense.

    How Ranked Voting Can Reduce Partisan Dysfunction, Un-disenfranchise Middle America, and Improve Overall Voter Satisfaction.
    A Politicalforum Discussion on Ranked Voting
    Ranked Voting In Action here at Politicalforum

    -Meta
     
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  5. Matt22yuc

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    lol
     
  6. fmw

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    It is a flawed system but is better than whatever is in second place.
     
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    I think the question misses the real problem. There is can be no political system human beings aren't capable of corrupting.
     
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  8. VotreAltesse

    VotreAltesse Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I tend to think it actually depend of the situation of the country. Some democracy can't work in countries where elections can open the wounds of ethnic tensions. It's the less worse however we can go toward.
    I have some sympathies for monarchy however.

    You're right.
     
  9. fmw

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    The major problem with monarchies is the chaos generated when there is regime change. With democracy we do that peacefully.
     
  10. VotreAltesse

    VotreAltesse Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think they're not adapted anymore to our times. I trust more someone which want to give the kingdom to his children in good conditions than a compulsive liar of a professionnal politician. However, I doubt that monarchy is adapted to todays way.
     
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    Being unable to vet the children for competence is a serious negative.
     
  12. VotreAltesse

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    I don't think that monarchy is adapted anymore to today. I think that people will be happy when philosophers will be king and king will be philosophers. We're our own king. The best way to govern is to be governed by the wisest. But there is no way to know who is the wisest ? This kind of government is impossible so.
     
  13. Alan Ford

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    Voted for the 1st choice, reasoning that Democracy in its truest form/essence is the best model for mankind to ensure the rights of every man and woman on this beautiful blue & green planet. Anything less is simple modification slanted towards a desired outcome.
     
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    None of the choices fit my views.

    I'm against pure democracy. I think that a representative multi-leveled republic, with a constitution that guarantees rights and limits government, is the best form of government.
     

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