Opinion: What to do with Dreamers?

The majority of Americans, it seems, are in sympathy with the plight of the Dreamers. Good points are being made from all sides, but a lot of misinformation is swirling about as well. So how do you see the issue? Is it really a simple thumbs up or thumbs down? Or, should the discussion really be focused on the HOW.

This is my opinion of how the process should look:
1. Arrive at a decision on how many we will provide amnesty to. There needs to be a quota. Already the number of potential Dreamers have grown from 1.5 million (Obama's information) to 6 million and maybe more. It seems the information is not reliable. We need to set a quota.

2. Vet and Dox the potential applicants. Are they working? are they paying taxes? Have they been arrested? have they marched in the streets waving a Mexican flag? Are they posting anti-American crap, or are they accusing everyone of being racists? Are they in school? Are they on welfare? Are they in a gang? Do they have any skills at all? We should not provide blanket amnesty. It must be merit based.

3. Once a "Dreamer" has demonstrated merit and has been vetted and doxed, they should then go through the same assimilation programs required of all immigrants- especially intense study of our history, our constitution and our laws. They must demonstrate an understanding of their responsibility in a democracy.

4. They must not be able to be the anchor for chain migration. Their parents and other relatives may not qualify for citizenship. No chain migration allowed.

5. They must be fluent in English and not require ballots in any other language.

If, after meeting above requirements, the best of the best up to quota may be sworn in.

What are your thoughts?

 

They shouldn't be American citizens. Instead, everyone should be stripped of American citizenship. Every single person on earth. If you think I'm joking, I'm not.

 

The problem is, you won't get that. First, there will never be a clean bill. Secondly, you'd have to set dates of birth to meet some sort of quota without a number. Most of them don't know when or where they were born. It has been a mess from the start. There is no way to stop it now. One good thing is, as the brown population increases and blacks kill each other at the rate they do, we will have one less issue. Isn't that horrible? I'm ashamed of myself. Dems have left behind blacks.

 

I don’t have a problem giving them permanent legal status. But absolutely no government assistance with regard to food, housing, money, healthcare including childbirth and well baby care, tuition for 10 years. And no prior crimes, misdemeanors included and a 10 year probation with zero tolerance on crimes. A full background check, dna, fingerprinting, and health screening payed for by the dreamer.

 

Maybe we should get rid of the requirement to study American history and laws to get citizenship.

I'm a natural born citizen and I never had to take such a hard test to prove my right to citizenship.

Thus it should be a footnote of history. People will talk in shame about how there used to be citizenship tests to prove an immigrant's right to citizenship.

 

Oh and there shouldn't be an end to chain migration. For years I had the dilemma of how to get my space children to Earth legally, that is the E.T. aliens created children from my DNA and I was never sure of how to legally bring them back to Earth.

But now I hear it's so easy. I wish I knew that during the last visit the aliens abducted me and showed me my human daughter. Next time I'm going to grab her and run for the exit. She can be made a citizen because I am a citizen of the USA.

 

Now that the SCOTUS has taken up DACA, negotiating a "fix" is probably moot anyway. Equal treatment / protection under the law. I can't see the SCOTUS permitting special considerations be given to DREAMers. A "fix" won't suffice. New, comprehensive immigration law must be enacted. Dems, forcing Trumps hand, making him appeal to the SCOTUS, have probably ensured DREAMers will face deportation.

 

Ship them back to their own countries, and let them apply for citizenship like anyone else.

 

My view is for Sessions to keep his word. Those dreamers who registered as required would be legally able to remain
in our country as was promised before Sessions took office. He said that Obama didn't handle it legally and that he was simply going to do it according to law. Of course, any criminal activity would be a disqualification. Another Trump lie, as he is now attaching DACA to a wall, etc. What a dope. This is indicative of his
hypocrisy and lack of compassion and empathy for others not as fortunate as him.

 

Good luck with that.

 

Who promised?

DACA has not passed both houses and is not law. It is inappropriate blib-blab from a president who should have kept his mouth shut and worked to make it law prior to leaving office.

Now you have a president who is willing to make it law, but you also have the Resister Democrats who would rather see everything fail rather than give the president a win.

 

That's easy. Move away to another country and renounce your citizenship. What's the problem?

 

All interesting ideas worth considering.

Now, what about the elephant in the room?

For every Dreamer, there is an illegal alien parent, or parents.

If you make it legal for so called "Dreamers" to stay, what about the illegal alien parent(s) who are likely still here?

 

Offer a path to citizenship for those who are literate in English.

No welfare, no criminal records, no stream migration.

Get rid of the rest of them

 

Dreamers go to the back of the line with everyone else. Their knowledge of the US may advantage them in their pursuit of US citizenship.

 

Great start. The core illegal immigration problem that is the CAUSE of the DACA problem must be addressed, else we will be in the same boat a few years down the line. I think your solution applies well to the EXISTING 800,000, however, we cannot allow future kids to be brought here illegally. We need to fix the problem that caused DACA to come into existence before a meaningful solution can be found.

 

Build that wall.

 

This has been on the table for a year with no results. Sessions promised that he would see to it that they are here legally which means that Congress would do it. This could have been accomplished a long time ago. I am aware that the Trump base opposes it.

 

Most Americans support citizdenship for the DREAMers

 

I agree. But, "the wall", to me, means any combination of physical, legislative, enforcement, etc... that achieves the objective of controlling illegal immigration.

 

As a trump base voter I am willing to compromise on DACA with three conditions

Fully fund the wall

End chain migration

And no citizenship for any illegal alien EVER

Issue a permanent green card instead

 

Absolutely address it, but these DACA people have registered with the promise of a positive ending.

 

Illegal laiens do not deserve citizenship

 

There is statistic after shameful statistic showing how immigration hurts the blacks. There are fewer statistics to show how they have hurt the existing middle class citizenry who work in the trades. I can see with my eyes that trade and labor jobs out West have been totally taken over by Mexicans, and there is a corresponding increase in whites and others on welfare and using drugs (which is what despondent people do). It is not because the Mexicans do a better job - quite the contrary. The quality of work is noticeably inferior but there is a driving political agenda behind it. How easy would it have been for congress to pass/enforce E-verify already?

So there must be a quota set that is not based on the potential immigrants' needs or birth dates; but rather on calculations on our ability to absorb those people without taking jobs away from "our own". Our own includes long time citizens and those who were legally naturalized. Amnesty is also threatening to Mexicans who are citizens and are worried the same thing will happen to their jobs.