Oscars Announce New Inclusion Requirements for Best Picture

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  1. cirdellin

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    Why not just choose only actors from non white and/or non heterosexual groups for a few decades?
    And as talent is a meaningless social construct and the measurement of which is essentially fascist (Cause we like to overuse this word and to use it too liberally and incorrectly) why not just choose the winners randomly?
    When is this nonsense going to end?
    What’s the point of this navel gazing award anyway?
    People pay to see a movie. They are going to like it or they won’t.
    Frankly Rotten Tomatoes is a better measure of worth.
     
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    why not, we have an affirmative action President that won with fewer votes as affirmative action for the smaller States

    seems to be the new norm
     
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    Indeed, look at what the critics think of a movie that features half naked 11 year old girls twerking (brazen pedophilia). Compare what they think of that movie to what the America people think of it.
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    The oscars only exist for self congratulation and for making wide political statements.
    I don’t care who the stars were wearing on the red carpet.
    Drop the stupid ceremony and life will be better for anyone who thinks for themselves.
     
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    ^^^ Thread win.
     
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    Apples and particle accelerators.
    Trump won under the the rules of the US constitution.
    And if that advantage had favored Hilary the left would not be complaining about it.
     
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    My myself and irene, ahead of its time

     
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    There is a reason the movie industry is hurting financially. They forgot how to just tell a story. They are there to entertain us, not institutionalize us. Nobody takes the Oscars seriously anymore.
     
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    Ok so every nominee is a Caucasian/Asian/Black falling into one of the LBGTQ categories.

    Maybe being even slightly Caucasian is controversial so I will leave that to the ethics committees on the Oscar boards of directors.

    Settled.

    Then a lottery to see which of these amalgams wins.

    Then finally we can be totally rid of the fascist notions of merit.

    Or we can stop watching the mindless Oscars.

    Easy choice for me!
     
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    yep, the rules are there to benefit the smaller states - same thing rules to benefit the minority

    Hillary got millions more votes than Trump... and still lost

    can you imagine the outrage if Obama lost the popular vote but still won... I can

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    Art doesn't. The Academy Awards does. Anyone who still wants to make their art without an overlay of rules is free to - they just won't be considered for an award. It will be art for art's sake.
     
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    Wyoming has 1 representative and two senators and that is probably unfair.
    However, this is the intention of the US constitution.
    Same holds true of the electoral college.
    But these were the founders intentions.
    If you are American then write your representatives to fight for a constitutional amendment.
    I’m sure conservatives would be whining as hard if Hilary or Obama had been elected in this way.
    And I would be as critical of them.
     
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    Art is now worthless unless it is used as a political act.
    Art will always exist.
    Doesn’t need a very expensive television extravaganza.
     
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    All true. I liken it to the annual meeting of the sales people for VacuumsRUs - someone gets a prize. It's just that nobody cares, except for that one vacuum sales guy.

    Americans love to worship stars. The better sport, though, is watching a star fall. 'Tis human nature.

    Who cares what Hollywood does, though? You're spot on - we either like a movie or we don't. I don't need my opinion validated by some rich snobs in California.
     
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    It’s a long boring ceremony that really only appeals to the pathetically fashion Obsessed crowd.
    And that all happens way before the first worthless statue is awarded.
     
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    We just usually watch with the sound off, and wait for the fun montages, the in memoriam and the lifetime achievement awards. Kind of a hang out on the couch Sunday night to chat and occasionally look at some old movie snippets.
     
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    What are they going to do if it all ends up like Ivy League colleges and it's Asians, asians everywhere.
     
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    never said otherwise, doesn't change the fact that it is Affirmative action for the smaller States, Trump is a Affirmative action President

    had Obama won with less votes, you know the right would of called him a Affirmative action President
     
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    And the US left would never have uttered a peep against the electoral college saying instead that the system works. Same for Hilary.
     
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    yet, they would still know fewer voters supported them than the other guy, just like Republicans know that is true of Trump - but yes, both sides would try to ignore that fact

    what you say could have happened, with Trump... it did happen (Hillary got millions more votes than Trump)

    the point is, the Oscars will now be the same, more people may like a movie, but a movie less people like may win
     
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    Yes this has happened 4 times in American history. Most recently George W Bush.
    In each case people got over it and even Al Gore didn’t challenge the electoral college system itself. He realized that’s how the game is played.
    But this time, it’s different and I don’t know why and it seems personal.
    George W Bush (and Obama) created misery and mayhem over an entire region of the world.
    Trump has not.
    As far as the Oscars go I don’t watch them and will be more careful not to watch them now just as I won’t watch professional sports with athletes making political statements.
    I have enough drama in my own life and don’t need external drama!
    And I don’t need industry people to tell me what movies are good cause I have eyes and ears.
     
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    nothing we can do about it, doesn't mean it's not a fact.... Trump won with millions less votes than Hillary, that is just a fact for the history books

    I do not watch the Oscars either
     
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    The US Constitution can be amended so there is something that can be done about it.

    My concern is that if one chooses the US president solely by plurality what they will have is the president of their cities and entire regions of the country will be unrepresented.

    Much like the vast majority of Illinois is at the mercy of the city of Chicago.

    My bigger problem is that electors are not necessarily even obliged to vote the way their states have decided.

    I would favor a math centered electoral college system that does not include electors who can be willful. Just numbers.

    But I also favor eliminating the need for a US president to be born in the US and for the president to have served in the military in some capacity and for the president to either be or have been a governor. (Executive position)

    Lots on my wish list but in the meantime the rules are what they are.
     
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    agree
     
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