Other than putting holes in paper, or slaughtering innocents, what purpose can an AR15 serve?

This guy's wife got all over him for buying a bass boat. You don't need that! She declared.
He answered, "I didn't need you either- but I wanted you.... "

 

I've known more than one person who uses them for deer hunting.

That said the bottom line is that they are fun. You can tinker and modify them almost endlessly. Someone said that modern what the anti gun people call "military grade assault rifles" occupy the same nitch that cars used to have for young men back in the 50s, 60s, & 70s. Something you could work on and modify to your hearts content.

You can't do that with more recent vehicles.

 

You are aware? That the gun is not the bullet; you can load the same caliber to shoot faster or slower, alter the weight and expansive nature of the projectile- all of which alters the way it impacts a target. The effect is one of ballistics of the bullet, not the model of gun that fires it. An m16 military 5.6mm round projectile weights around 62 grams and travels 3250 FPS. I have a bolt action deer rifle (below) that is a special build starting with a 100 year old swedish military weapon, that will shoot a bullet twice as heavy at just over 3000 FPS. Much more potential for damage. Hit an 18" target 1/2 mile out consistently. Gun is very pretty, not scary at all. Looks are deceiving.

 

Again you are speaking out of your ass. Yes they are designed to wound. But there is no special magic about a .223. They are less deadly than the 30-06 which was the standard US military rifle round because they have significantly less emergy.

 

Very true; there is no gun anywhere that offers all the options available in the AR platform. The configurations are unlimited, the number of caliber options close to 100, and the ability to modify and customize without starting over- endless. Hence, versatility is the real cause of it's popularity.

 

I have no problem with a .223 single-bolt.

I have a problem with a .223 in a semi-automatic with a 30 round mag. You could fire at least 4 rounds in the time you would need to om the bolt action.

 

00 buck doesnt lose much through walls either. Iirc, good ol uncle Biden recomended it for home defense on national TV, along with firing wildly into the air to scare intruders (which is illegal btw).

Frangible rounds that have little penetration value are readily available in every caliber ARs utilize.

So tell me why my high capacity .223/5.56 with frangible bullets isn't suitable for home defense?

Then tell me how you justify making that decision for me and/or restricting my access to it.

 

Not to start an argument, but just some realistic info.

Fast firing is virtually never accurate firing- lot of noise, but the targets better be close.
I've seen a man shoot a revolver so quickly that each sound of a shot blended into the next, without distinction. The top shooter in this particular test is Jerry Miculek, a real expert who can fire four rounds per second, including reload times- that's 240 rounds per minute. This is revolver, where each shot requires a hammer ****, and a reload every six shots. There are also some very fact bolt action records as well. Granted, these are highly skilled shooters, where most violent shooters are not. However the same lack of skill that makes them slow also makes for poor accuracy. How fast the gun will shoot is far less critical than the skill of the person pulling the trigger.

Charles Whitman, a 25-year-old engineering student and former Marine, climbed to the top of the tower at the University of Texas at Austin and shot 46 people in 96 minutes. 16 died. Location made him hard to get to, his targets were those randomly found on campus were fairly long range. He had already killed his wife and mother before coming to the campus. He used a bolt action rifle.

All guns can kill, but none choose to do so- only people choose to kill after they have made that commitment, they find a weapon, but the key element is always the person.

 

To be honest, I don't like having my car crapped on after I wash it. In other words, what you like or dislike is up to you and I could care less one way or the other...

 

Outside of an Internet "talking point" for 2nd Amendment Gun Worshippers who favor giving hand grenades to newborn babies?

Your guess is as good as mine.

 

And if I recall, Whitman had been a Marine too, which would have explained his marksmanship ability.

You are right, accuracy is not very high when shooting that fast, but as we have seen, these mass shooters didn't need accuracy. They were firing in close quarters of less than 30 yards, into hallways where these .223 bullets could penetrate doors and walls quite easily. Most handgun ammo doesn't penetrate walls as well as a boat tail bullet.

 

The AR-15 is a reasonably priced rifle of a moderate caliber. It's no more dangerous than any other semiautomatic rifle. Bolt action rifles are a pain in the ass if you enjoy sport shooting with long guns, and the AR-15 is a robust design that accepts a wide variety of attachments, so the same rifle could suit close range shooting as well as long range.

I'm speaking from the perspective of someone who mostly enjoys sport shooting, although it gives me peace of mind to own a secured firearm. I don't expect to ever actually shoot somebody, and I know that realistically if my home were invaded just shouting a warning that I'm carrying a gun would be enough to run the average invader off, but owning a fire extinguisher doesn't imply that you expect a fire to start in your home either.

 

The problem with people like you is that you don't know a damn thing about guns.

End of story.

 

To overthrow a tyrannical government.

End of story.

 

I'm glad they're lethal.
That's the whole ****ing point

 

You'd have a higher likelihood of jamming. Frangibles work best with handgun loads.

 

A deer rifle will go through walls. Where is your outrage?

 

Oh my, I love guessing games.

A really dangerous paper weight.

An awkward table leg.

A really expensive and unsanitary bacon maker (I have seen YouTube video of idiots doing this)(oh, and it was Ted Cruz so it was an idiot)

A rather hard safety blanket

And the best thing of all that it does is being a prosthetic penis for people who were born with really small ones or none at all.

 

Interesting that all of you are outraged over the possibility of tightening gun laws and like to repeat that the 2nd Amendment is for protection of us against tyranny, and you rant on and on about your willingness to take action to protect your gun rights, but I don't see any right wing movement to back up that claim of honorable intentions by taking any action to protect your rights with sound proposals that actually have a chance of mitigating mass shootings and gun possession by mentally troubled people.

If you are in fact serious about your "rights" to own guns, it's hard to take you seriously if you do nothing about the misuse of guns. YOU are the ones who should be on the front lines in the battle to mitigate mass shootings. When will you step up to the plate?

 

It's good for getting a backpack off your shoulders, just put the safety on.

 

Not approved for deer. Not effective. FAIL.

BTW: which rifles cannot use the 22 round? Name them.

 

It's not that we have no suggestions. We've always said that ending gun free zones which demonstrably only effect the law abiding would at least let them have a more or less even chance.
The way it is now you guarantee they are a sitting duck. That's silly.

 

Logically, that is not a solution. It is an increased danger.

 

it depends on ur guides. in the cheap 'GI' mags for ARs, prolly true. Quality mags shouldnt have an issue.

 

There are over 20 thousand gun laws on the books. How many more do you want?

And how do you regulate the "misuse" of anything?

People "misuse" all sorts of items all the time everyday.