Outlawing Occupy: H.R. 347 Makes Free Speech A Felony

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  1. ironboltbruce

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    Once signed, HR 347 will empower federal agents to arrest and bring felony criminal charges against citizens engaged in political protests anywhere in the USA.

    OUTLAWING THE OCCUPY MOVEMENT: HR 347 MAKES FREE SPEECH A FELONY

    The First Amendment to the Constitution of the United States of America reads as follows:

    "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

    At 7:03pm ET on Tuesday, 28 February 2012, our 112th Congress violated this covenant with the American people by voting 399 to 3 in favor of H.R. 347, a bill which breezed through the Senate with unanimous consent and now lacks only corporate fascist puppet President Barack Obama's signature to become law. The three patriots who voted Nay were Paul Broun (R-GA-10), Justin Amash (R-MI-3) and Ron Paul (R-TX-14). The traitors who voted Yea are listed here:

    http://www.govtrack.us/congress/vote.xpd?vote=h2011-149

    http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm

    Euphemistically titled the "Federal Restricted Buildings and Grounds Improvement Act" and referred to by our corporate-controlled mainstream media as a "non-controversial bill", a more truthful moniker for HR 347 would be the "First Amendment Rights Eradication Act". As Representative Amash lamented on his Facebook page:

    "Current law makes it illegal to enter or remain in an area where certain government officials (more particularly, those with Secret Service protection) will be visiting temporarily if and only if the person knows it's illegal to enter the restricted area but does so anyway. [H.R. 347] expands current law to make it a crime to enter or remain in an area where an official is visiting even if the person does not know it's illegal to be in that area and has no reason to suspect it's illegal... [And to] show you the extent to which the public is misled and misinformed about the legislation we are voting on, read one prominent media outlet's coverage of the same bill:

    http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-acti...oves-white-house-trespass-bill-sends-to-obama

    The report mischaracterizes not only current law but also the changes proposed by the bill."

    The full text of H.R. 347 is available here:

    http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h112-347

    Obviously aimed at the Occupy Movement, these modifications to U.S. Code Title 18 Section 1752 will seriously diminish the right of American citizens to petition their Government for a redress of grievances by outlawing protests where key government officials or other VIP's may be nearby. Federal law enforcement agents will be empowered to bring these charges against Americans engaged in political protests anywhere in the country, and violators will face criminal penalties that include imprisonment for up to 10 years.

    Welcome to Fourth Reich Amerika...

    http://thenewamerican.com/usnews/co...severely-curtailing-first-amendment-liberties

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  2. HonestJoe

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    A complete and utter lie that you're entirely free to speak.
     
  3. Krypt

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    Text of the bill below...

    While I think the OP is jumping to conclusions....sections A2 and A3 could use more clarification...
     
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    Some say it can be interpreted to remove protestors from grounds if a politician is on those grounds, whether the protestors know it or not.

    This does seem like an attack on the 1st Amendment, not necessarily just the Occu-turds.
     
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    This seems extarneous, if an area is restricted, there should a notice to all about the restricted area. DoD areas are most clearly posted. All depending on the agency/dept, they all have their respective laws/codes on restricted areas.
     
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    One step closer to communism. Gosh, I wonder who wants that?
     
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    That's exactly my issue with this legislation. This could apply to OWS, Tea Party... anyone who is protesting anything. You don't even have to be aware that the politicians is preset, hell he could be completely hidden in a car and you could be arrested.

    Our 1st amendment is vanishing and a lot of folks here cheer it on. Patriot Act, NDAA, the DHS... This country or rather the people who currently occupy is really make me sick these days, we'd rather quibble over the silly Rep vs. Dem coin toss than pay attention as both parties erode our freedoms.
     
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    ...get off the fence, either you are on the right or on the left, the middle is for people with out commitment...


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    If all OWS was doing was "speaking" I'd have no problem with that at all. That's not what they are about, why can't people cut the BS? These people are anarchists...these people are camping, (*)(*)(*)(*)ting, eating, attracking rodents and roaches, Singing and dancing till all hours, doing drugs, having sex, covering monuments, defacing buildings, hurting businesses, committing crimes....etc all in the name of "the 1st amendment".

    They are scum. If they just want to "speak" than, 5pm till 8pm 5 or even 7days would do just fine, wouldn't it? They have disruptive lives and just love to disrupt the lives of everyone else around them. GO HOME
     
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    You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
     
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    This place makes me sick... probably too often.

    Here is a bill that affects us all, infringes on our right to protest our government and all you mouth breathing retards want to talk about are the lazy stoners in NY. Myopic, partisan, idiotic sheep marching to the beat of your parties drum right of the cliff of totalitarianism.

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    Not sure where you got the idea that "free speech" means you get to speak wherever you want.

    "Free Speech" does not mean you have the right to enter my living room without my consent. The fact that I dont allow you to enter my living room does not mean I am violating your right to free speech.

    "Free Speech" does not mean you are allowed to harass anyone you want. The fact that you are prevented from harassing people does not mean your right to free speech has been violated.

    Your failure to understand this is why no one except other leftists will ever sympathize with your views on this issue.
     
  14. Anikdote

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    A public place is hardly "your living room" -- and I find it appalling that the presence of a politicians should infringe upon my right to speak out against them, they do after all... work for me, the taxpayer.
     
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    Well, it may be their fault after all. And if this (*)(*)(*)(*) pile of a government passes it....than I go back to what I said to sooooo many who voted for this liberal radical progressive, and that is....be careful what you wish for, and that you won't see it until it comes and bites you right in the ass.

    That time may be now.

    You see here's the thing, the dems prasied OWS when it started...even the POS did. Now that the anarchists have turned on them as well...it's a whole new ballgame for them, they will now need to silence them. Like they do everyone else who doesn't cow tail along with their agenda.
     
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    If my interpretation is correct, those who peacefully protested here would have been arrested.

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    Ah, so if I want to protest in the middle of the freeway during Rush hour, it should be legal, because that is a public place.

    If I want to protest in the womens bathroom, I should be able to, because that is a public place.

    If I want to protest in the middle of a classroom at the local elementary school, I should be allowed to, because that is a public place.

    You are ok with people protesting at will in any of these places?

    Last I heard, I was a taxpayer as well. Since when does YOUR opinion supersede mine when it comes to the people working for ME? Why should my employees be constantly harassed by you?
     
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    I do not like the Occupy people but this goes too far as it will eventually effect everyone. I'm not on a fence. I am squarely on the constitution. If people are destroying property, the police will handle it. If they light fires without a permit, again the police can handle it. If they want to rant and rage, let them. I don't have to listen but I and many, many others have already fought for that very right as well as your right to be incorrect.
     
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    The thing I would like to know is what's defined as an "official function"??
     
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    It is legal, stupid, suicidal, but not illegal.

    Look up expectation of privacy.

    Look up trespassing.

    Of course not, your completely mischaracterizing the argument. I am clearly talking about public places where there is no reasonable expectation of privacy where you can lawfully be.

    It's not my opinion. It's my first amendment right.
     
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    LOL! Yes, it is illegal. You cannot stop traffic with a random "protest". You will be arrested with disorderly conduct (at best) and tossed in jail.

    Um...I thought it was impossible to trespass on public property. I mean, you OWN public property via your tax dollars, right?

    Or are you saying that (GASP) it might be possible that you dont necessarily have the right to protest on public property just because it is public property?

    Ah, so you are using "reasonable" as a qualifier. Tell me, who exactly should get the final say as to what "reasonable" is?


    I thought we just established that your first amendment right does not necessarily apply everywhere....even on public property. Even you agreed. See above.

    The first Amendment simply says you can express ideas and not have to worry about the government kicking your ass for it. It does NOT say you can express them anywhere you feel like it. Even on public property.
     
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    Then it's illegal and beside the point anyway

    Welfare and safety of the children. Think of it like a courtroom, sure it's owned publicly but for various/obvious reasons you can disrupt the preceding in these locations. Not whatsoever related to protesting while a politicians is present.

    It's a silly comparison, I seriously expect better.

    It's a legal concept that I didn't make up. Pathetic gotcha attempt.

    In places with legitimate reasons to deny it, what's the legitimate justification for this additional legislation?

    So long as I only do it alone, by myself, silently. This is the America your ilk want.
     
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    So you feel you should be able to personally harass any elected official, regardless of where they are?

    Explain to me why you think it is reasonable that you should not be allowed to protest inside the whitehouse, for example. It is public property. He is an elected official.

    (or maybe you do think it is reasonable?)

    Silly according to who? I think your own demands to be able to harass politicians at will are equally retarded.

    And...naturally...you should personally get to define what reasons are "legitimate". LOL

    You are not entitled to free exposure for your ideas. The Constitution only guarantees you the right of expression without fear of retaliation. It does not guarantee that people have to listen to you.

    And no, I dont want an America where you are allowed to scream in my face if you dont like something I've done.
     
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    There is no free speech right to camp on government property. That said, the devil is in the details...too soon to know what this does but it is possible they simply want to avoid 'Hover-towns' popping up all over.
     
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    Before I answer your comment, I have a question of you:

    What exact incidents - if any - do you think the OWS is responsible for, and should have been legally not permitted, or fined?
     

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