Palestinian Girl Cries As Israelis Bulldoze Her Home

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  1. Pisa

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    What's with the onus theory? Can't find your way out of your own false premises without a strawman?

    Actually, genetic research show that some of the ancestors of the ancient populations in the Levant came from the Caucasus, not from Africa. Later, migrations took place from the Levant to Africa:
    https://geneticliteracyproject.org/...-defending-israelite-ancestry-ethiopian-jews/

    There are two Ethiopian communities in Israel: the Beta Israel, mentioned in the quote above, and the Falash Mura, Christians who pretend to have Jewish roots as descendants of converts from Judaism. The Beta Israel are clearly Jews, and frankly I don't care about their genetic make-up, they are members of my nation regardless. Most of the Falash Mura are probably not Jewish at all, but thousands were brought to Israel for humanitarian reasons.
     
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    Oh okay, I get you - the historic claim.
    Being a Jew isn't something people boasted about - incredibly they were driven out of
    120 nations. Not sure how they calculated that one. Seven of these nations were Muslim
    ones after 1948.
    No-one doubts the Jews are THE Jews of the bible. They have the genes, the features,
    the abilities, the religion and of course, the history. Same Jews driven out of Rome were
    the ones massacred by the Crusaders and the ones persecuted by Russians, Poles and
    Germans last century.
     
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    it is you who put the onus on iraqi jews to prove white jewish european descent, not i.

    no doubt that some in the levant came from europe, it was coloinzed by the greeks and the romans for centuries. :clapping:

    the beta israel have no connection to white jewish europeans. so someone here is lying about being jews, either the ethiopians or the europeans. its not hard to figure out when we look at depictions of the Israelites from the reliefs of antiquity, all with cornrows (curly hair) whites dont have curly hair and white are also not Afro-Asians, as the Biblical Israelites were. that would lead inform us that it is the ethiopian that is closer to the truth yet we have been brainwashed by the illuminati to believe the jews were blond haired and blue eyed (renaissance artwork of white jesus)
     
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    EVERYBODY doubts that the white jewish european are the jews, what are you on about lol. the only ppl that believe the biblical israelites were white are white supremacists and neo nazis.

    you should read the book "invention of the jewish ppl" by tel aviv professor Schlomo Sand who again notes that the ppl we call jews today are not descended from Israelites but rather a turkic tribe who converted to a religion called judaism.

    that anybody, even mickey mouse, can convert to judaism and become jew(ish) is more than enough proof that jewish is not genetic. the facts dont care about your opinions.
     
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    Since you refuse to read any of my sources - this is obvious from your replies - I'll let you with your conspiracy theories, including the more than aberrant "whites don't have curly hair" (on what planet?) false premise.

    You can also try to guess who are the white Europeans fake Jews in the following pictures:
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    Have fun.
     
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    so whats the point in posting pics of white folk again?

    also you seem to have inside information of a nation of whites that all have curly hair, please disclose, thanks.
     
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    None of the Jews in those pictures is European. The first two are Egyptians, the third Iraqi, the last Syrian Jews.

    15% of people of European ancestry have curly hair.
    https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0002929709004649
     
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    I think you mean Semite. Jew indicates a religion and religions, like politics, don't have a genetic imprint.
     
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    your silly idea that a white person cannot have any Israelite ancestry, is ignorant and sad.

    no one here has claimed that Ashkenazi Jews are 100% Israelite, or that all Jews are white or that a Jew cannot be black or brown or Asian. That's your silly and ignorant strawman.

    the Jews are like the rainbow, of all colors.
     
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    again, ignorant strawman.

    many whites in the Mediteranean nations have darker skin, darker eyes and curly dark hair.
     
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    thats great, so there are white folk who live in the middle east, who wouldve thought huh, there is a whole country of them by the sinai btw.

    is there a point youre trying to make because im not feeling it..
     
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    the only ppl who push this "jewish gene" nonesense is David Duke and his buddies.
     
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    I'm an atheist Jewess. There are many atheist Jews.

    Jews are a nation.
     
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    The Jews of Egypt and Iraq are descendants of very old communities of Jews outside Judea - at least 2300 years in Egypt and 2500 years in Iraq. If the original Jews were dark skinned Africans, Egyptian and Iraqi Jews would have been dark skinned as well. Their white skin is testimony to a different origin for Jews.
     
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    they are converts from spain, portugal or morocco. anybody can become jew(ish). if the original jews were white then they would have been depicted as having straight hair and not cornrows as we see in the 2,000 year old babylonian reliefs.

    the fact that there is no genetic connection between ethiopian jews and white jew(ish) europeans would mean that one of these groups is lying about being the real jews.

    do you know of a nation of dark skinned whites with curly hair? Atlanteans maybe lmao.
     
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    so you reject the torah but want to be considered a jew. smh, only in america.

    #havingcakeandeatingit
     
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    what jews of egypt? there is only 18 of them according to a 2017 census lol. guess the jew(ish) presence in egypt is a myth after all. get your facts straight.
     
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    quote:

    "To my surprise, these newspapers reported that most of the Jews who left Egypt in 1956 ended up at various ports in Europe, places such as France and Italy, most likely because they were not affiliated with the political Zionist movement, and perhaps because they had previously obtained citizenship from those countries"


    as we can see from this testimony, most of the jew(ish) folk in egypt were european citizens also, yet you claim they are indigenous africans. smh.
     
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    How exactly did the Portuguese and the Spanish convert to Judaism in your version of history? By telepathy with Ethiopian Jews? Angels' mail? Pigeons? Nobody can become a Jew if there's no Jew around to teach Judaism.

    Egyptian Jews were already there when Alexander the Great founded Alexandria in 331 BCE.

    Babylonia didn't exist 2.000 years ago. It ceased to exist in the 6th century BCE. What reliefs are you talking about?

    One of the links I posted, and you didn't bother to read, showed the link between white skinned Jews and Beta Israel from Ethiopia. You also ignore the existence of dark skinned Yemeni Jews, your missing link between white skinned Jews and Ethiopians.

    Lack of any genetic link between Beta Israel and white skinned Jews still wouldn't be proof of Africans being the original Jews. Most Jews are not black, and nobody can seriously argue that communities so diverse, some isolated for more than a millennium like the Chinese or Indian Jews, miraculously converted to Judaism in places where no Ethiopian has gone before.

    Jews come in all shades. They naturally tended to favor the prevalent shade in the societies they lived in, so the white skinned were more successful in Europe, North Africa, and the Levant, the dark skinned in Yemen, India, and Ethiopia. Plus some admixture with local populations. This is called evolution.
     
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    I'm not American. I'm Israeli.
     
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    Link for the quote?

    I never claimed that Egyptian Jews are indigenous to Africa. Jews are indigenous to Canaan.

    Egypt had been ruled by the French and the British. According to French and British laws, inhabitants of former colonies are entitled to citizenship. That's why there are so many Algerians, Tunisians, and North African Jews in France, so many Pakistanis and Indians in the UK. Please tell me that British Pakistanis and Indians are not real Pakistanis and Indians, because they received British citizenship...
     
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    the same way a german converts to christianity or a brit converts to islam. all it takes is one minister travelling through the region, as was the case for khazaria and the conversion of the ashkenazi.

    the israelites of egypt during greek rule would be the remnants of israel and the aftermath of the destruction.

    the babylonian reliefs are from 2000+ years ago and depict the captive israelites as having worn braided hair, the only modern population that resembles this are to be found in west africa where many hebrews have been found recently.

    there is no missing link for ethiopian jews, that was a continuous journey south from israel as was the migration due to the horde from greece and asyria and attested to by the lemba as far south as zimbabwe.

    the lack of shared traits between the israelites in africa and the white jewish europeans would determine that, since white jewish europeans have no link to israel before 1948, ashkenazi are mere converts to a cult called judaism, whereby anyone can be jewish if they have enough money, it became monetized and as such lost its soul and claim of virtue. jew(ish) ppl are 100% white, there are no black jew(ish) folk, there are only jews who happen to be black. there is no such thing as chinese jews.

    granted, some sephardi may have become white over the centuries due to the racism in europe where they dwelt and a need to survive which is where the marranos arose and assimilated, took on gentile(white) wives and eventually became white. this would be the exception though since we all eventually come back to our roots. there is however groups, elites who seek power by means of occultism, groups like the european israelism which is still prominent in the royal families across europe who believe they are the lost tribes of israel. this is where the illuminati inspired da vinci codes exposes the intention of europes elites, to establish dominance in the holy lands by means of cultural appropriation, we see the signs through out hollyweird and it is very real.
     
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    None of it makes any sense.

    Kaifeng Jews:
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    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/chinese-kaifeng-jews-seek-new-lives-israel-n527876

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    http://www.asianews.it/news-en/Henan,-Kaifeng-Jews-persecuted-along-with-other-religions-46272.html
     
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    That's true, to a point. There's no Mormon gene.
    It's been said that the Gentile component of the Judaism lasts on average just three generations.
    So the Jewishness gets watered down, but not entirely. Jews that left Israel became genetically
    lost in the nations, such as the ten tribes. But others genetically benefited from strong religious
    ties - particularly with Jewish women.
    BUT there is still a strong genetic component which attests to a strong blood linked fidelity of many
    Jews. The facts speak for themselves - we can trace people better these days, witness the work
    done on the settlement of Europe. One of the best DNA studies done has been on Jews in Rome
    itself - they were there as a rather isolated community since the days of Jesus.
     
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    Those beliefs about Turkics has been debunked.
    Again, some Jews are Jews because their parents, grandparents, great grandparents etc were Jews.
    Others are "Jews" because they converted. Such conversions don't last more than three generations on
    average. Whether you are Jews from old Parthia, or Spain or Poland - there is still that blood connection.
     

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