Palestinian Statehood ( Part 3 )

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  1. expatriate

    expatriate Banned

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    it really was a simple question. why in the world wouldn't you answer it?
     
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    Answer the question, Jud. It has nothing to do with "Racist Hate", just history. And now your Iranian Muslim brothers are threating to wipe Israel off the map. Get ready for a Persian Barbeque if she trys it.


    http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/Ir...l/2012/02/26/id/430584?s=al&promo_code=E44B-1
    Iran Defense Official: Iran's Warriors 'Ready to Wipe Israel Off the Map'
     
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    Israel is wiping Palestine from the maps with its expanding illegal settlements and you have no issue with that, so your argument is bias and thus irrelevant. You don't oppose "map wiping". You just oppose Semites or Persians.
     
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    Why in the world do you not oppose the hatred of Semite?
     
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    Oh, PLEASEEEEEEEEEE. As I told you before, Jordan has 77% of what was Palestine. And once more, yes or no, Did the Arab League attack Israel on Oct. 6, 1973???
     
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    It's a simple question but if Jud answered it she would throw her whole argument out the window.
     
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    Answer: I oppose the hatred of anyone based upon ethnicity. I can understand, and do condone, however, animosity towards anyone who seeks one's destruction. Self preservation is an honest and acceptable motivation.

    Now... answer the several simple yes or no questions that have been posed to you, please
     
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    Incorrect. Israel is seeking the destruction of Palestine through expanding illegal settlements, but you do not oppose such. This means that your argument is false.

    Egypt attacked Israel in 1973 since Israel was expanding illegal settlements in Egypt.
     
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    Such does not justify Israel's map-wiping in Palestine that you refuse to condemn while attacking Iran with racist hypocrisy.
     
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    1. I actually do oppose the rampant settlement expansion by Israel, and have NEVER said otherwise here or anywhere else, so you would do well to apologize for putting words in my mouth.

    2. Israel took the Sinai as a result of the 6 day war... as of that point, it was occupied territory and no longer part of Egypt anymore. If they cared so much about that godforsaken pile of sand, perhaps they should not have been readying their forces for an imminent attack against Israel.

    Bottom line: every time the arabs try to kick the Israeli's asses, they get theirs handed to them. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result. Do you honestly expect Israel to give back even MORE territory that it has won on the field of battle in exchange for more broken promises?
     
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    Who is hating??? I was asking a question about a historical fact and Jud refuses to answer and your answer is silly. A simple yes or no will suffice.

    I have always answered. And gave an explanation as to why.
     
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    Oh, ok. I'll apologize if you recognize and accept the nations of Israel and Palestine, like most of everyone else.

    Attacking Egypt, as Israel did in 1967, does not give Israel the right to claim its land.

    I think that it would be great for Israel to recognize and accept the nation of Palestine so that I've fewer reasons to be critical of it.
     
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    beenthere... this post of mine that you quote was in direct response to the Judge... not to you. You and I are pretty much on the same page when it comes to Israel.
     
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    Sorry,. Epat, I was half asleep and didn't read your complete post.
     
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    {{{"""Attacking Egypt, as Israel did in 1967, does not give Israel the right to claim its land."""}}}


    Jan -March 1967 Over 270 border "incidents" cause rising concern in Israel. March 3 - Landmine injures tractorist in Kibbutz Shamir. March 12, explosion on train tracks near Kibbutz Lahav. March 26, 2 Palestinians killed trying to demolish a water pump near Arad.
    April 7, 1967 Israelis respond to intensive Syrian shelling of DMZ and and Israeli villages and kibbutzim with IAF raid. An air battle involving about 130 aircraft developed. Israelis down 6 MiG 21 fighters, 2 over the Golan and 4 over Damascus.
    May 13, 1967 Soviets inform Anwar Sadat in Moscow that Israel is massing 10-12 brigades in preparation for an attack on Syria, supposedly to take place May 17. The information is false, as were several similar previous Soviet warnings.
    May 14, 1967 First reports of Egyptian troop movements into Sinai.
    May 16, 1967 Radio Cairo broadcast stated: "The existence of Israel has continued too long. We welcome the Israeli aggression. We welcome the battle we have long awaited. The peak hour has come. The battle has come in which we shall destroy Israel."
    May 26, 1967 Speech by Gamal Nasser to Arab Trade Unionists - - Nasser claimed that Egypt was only looking for the right movement and the proper excuse to fight for the Palestinian cause.

    excerpts from that speech

    Actually I was authorized by the (Arab Socialist Union's) Supreme Executive Committee to implement this plan at the right time. The right time came when Syria was threatened with aggression. We sent reconnaissance aircraft over Israel. Not a single brigade was stationed opposite us on the Israeli side of the border. All Israeli brigades were confronting Syria. All but four brigades have now moved south to confront Egypt. Those four are still on the border with Syria. We are confident that once we have entered the battle we will triumph, God willing.

    I have recently been with the armed forces. All the armed forces are ready for a battle face to face between the Arabs and Israel. Those behind Israel are also welcome.

    May 29, 1967 Speech by Gamal Nasser to Egyptian National Assembly Members - Nasser explicitly threatened to destroy Israel: "...God will surely help and urge us to restore the situation to what it was in 1948....But now that the time has come - and I have already said in the past that we will decide the time and place and not allow them to decide - we must be ready for triumph and not for a recurrence of the 1948 comedies. "

    excerpts from that speech

    Subsequently we were able to rise and to build. Now, eleven years after 1956, we are restoring things to what they were in 1956. This is from the material aspect. In my opinion this material aspect is only a small part, whereas the spiritual aspect is the great side of the issue. The spiritual aspect involves the renaissance of the Arab nation, the revival of the Palestine question, and the restoration of confidence to every Arab and to every Palestinian. This is on the basis that if we were able to restore conditions to what they were before 1956, God will surely help and urge us to restore the situation to what it was in 1948.

    Israel used to boast a great deal, and the Western Powers, headed by the United States and Britain, used to ignore and even despise us and consider us of no value. But now that the time has come - and I have already said in the past that we will decide the time and place and not allow them to decide - we must be ready for triumph and not for a recurrence of the 1948 comedies. We shall triumph, God willing.

    May 31, 1967 President Abdur Rahman Aref of Iraq stated "The existence of Israel is an error which must be rectified. This is our opportunity to wipe out the ignominy which has been with us since 1948. Our goal is clear - to wipe Israel off the map.
    Jun 2, 1967 Moshe Dayan joins Israeli cabinet as Minister of Defense. Unity gov't formed. Reservists released for furlough before outbreak of the war.


    Yes, I would attack Egypt too.And please note what Nassar said they were going to do to Israel. "Our goal is clear - to wipe Israel off the map." So, regardless of what you say, the Arabs main goal all along is to wipe Israel off the map, and kill every man woman and child there. And you want to cry about a few acres of land.
     
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