Palestinians Must Recognize That The World Has Changed,They Are No Longer The Center Of The Universe

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  1. notme

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    That's just your Zionistic opinion.
    Who cares. lol
     
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    You claimed that Israel is "more or less like normal democratic country".
    I disputed this. And here we are with you suddenly comparing Israel and saying it did things like the vassal states of the communistic USSR or like an Arab caliphate.
    Well well.... lol.

    Those were....normal democratic countries? lol

    The shoe fits on your foot. Obviously.

    Indeed. Nobody proved Israel ethnic cleansing civilians.

    I love it how you are debunking Israel is behaving like normal democratic country.


    You are showing how Palestinians behave after Israel made it the law that they may not return and got their properties thieved from, denying them their legal international rights.

    There is such a thing in Israel. Israel ethnically cleansed +700,000 Arabs so they could not go to go to same school, go to the same hospital, go to the same beach, sit on the same bench, go to same hotel and much, much more.... including GO TO THEIR OWN HOUSES.
     
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    MGB ROADSTER Banned

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    Lol .. Really ??
    If we compare Arab's situation in their 22 large countries .. then the best place in the world for Arabs is Israel.
    We are fed up with the Pro Islamo Jihado Arabo Palestinian wall of lies.
     
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    Yes, I said Israel is "more or less like normal democratic country".
    More – because it is the only democratic country in the Middle East where Arabs have the most civil right.
    Less – because Israel in a unique situation. There is no other democratic country surrounded by countries which until recently promised to destroy it.

    As to refugees – the only democratic countries which would have refugee problems are Poland and Czech Republic which after WWII expelled millions of German, but somehow German refugees miraculously disappeared. So today they don’t have this problem.

    We agree that Israel should return conquered territory, I say after negotiations, you say Israel should just return, like Israel did with Gaza, which according to you was probably great success – I disagree.

    You are saying Israel should allow all Palestinian refugees to return to their original homes, I am saying millions of Palestinian refugees will make Israel another Syria, Gaza or Lebanon.

    You are saying by not allowing refugees to return, it makes Israel an apartheid, I am saying if not allowing refugees to return makes a country an apartheid, it means Poland, Czech Republic, Jordan, India and Pakistan also an apartheid countries.
     
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    Really. +700,000 and their decedents are banned to return home and get their property back because they are Arabs. I call that oppression.
     
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    Utter nonsense.
    You are flat out ignoring Israel ethnically cleansed +700,000 Arab civilians and is colonizing beyond it's borders in order to claim it's more or less like a normal democratic country. It's just absolutely nowhere near a normal democratic country. It's just a country where a majority of Jewish fanatics democratically vote in a violent racist regimes that supports ethnic cleansing and colonizing and almost all join the army to fulfil that idea.


    You are comparing Israel with the atrocities done by the Soviets.
    I love it.

    And it is. Comparing this with other countries doesn't change that.
     
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    zalekbloom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    As I said - there was not a democratic country in similar position to Israel - surrounded by enemies whose official policy was to destroy it. After 6 days war Israel was ready to return most of conquered territories in exchange for peace - no Arab country was ready to talk. In 2005 Israel decided just return Gaza to Palestinians without any negotiations. What is Gaza now we see, undemocratic regime of Hamas who invest in rocket and attack tunnel building, shoots rockets on Israeli water and electricity plants and complains why Israel is not supplying them with water, electricity and materials to build more tunnels and more rocket.

    And you ignore ethnics cleansing done by Jordan, Poland, Czech Republic, India and Pakistan and I DO NOT IGNORE ethic cleansing done by Israel. I only noticed that Jordan (then called Transjordan) got of 100% of Jews and Israel get rid of some Arabs.


    Nope - we didn't talk about atocites, we talk about ethnic cleansing. Ethnics cleaning of Jews done by Jordan was not the same as atrocities done by Soviets and the same with ethnics cleansing of Palestinians done by Israel - it was not the same.
    But because you don't call Poland, Czech Republic, India, Jordan and Pakistan an apartheid countries, I guess you changed you definition of apartheid. Good job!
     
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    Totally not relevant to why Israel and it's Jews ethnically cleansed +700,000 Arabs civilians to thieve their real estate.

    Israel decided to stop with those verry view collonies in Gaza and concentrate on ethnic cleansing and expanding more and more in the West Bank. You can even see in graphs a little bump of increased population increase in the WB right around the time those view war criminals left Gaza. So the bottom line is that Israel never stopped their war criminal behavior one bit. So I dunno... it's like you find it odd that there is a violent resistance against people who massively vote for and participate in war crimes. Nelson Mandela fought against such apartheid, and he is considered a hero.

    I have commented on it by saying you're comparing Israel with the atrocities done by the Soviets.
    I love it.

    The ethnic cleansing by Poland and the Czech Republic were done by the Soviets. And you find what these crimes are on par with what Jewish Israel did to Arab civilians.

    I agree.
     
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    And i call 800000 to 1000000 Jews which were expelled and deported from their homes in Arab countries - the Jewish Nakba.
     
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    I read your post again and I come to conclusion that you are a genius! You convinced me that:

    It is terrible that Israel removed Jewish settlers from Gaza and returned control to Palestinians – because, because… because somehow by giving Palestinians control in Gaza Israel did not return really returned land to Palestinians, but concentrated on secret ethnic cleansing, even so there no information on ethnic cleansing after giving Gaza to Palestinians.

    Ethnics cleansing in Jordan, Poland, Czech Republic, India and Pakistan was done by Soviets, especially in Jordan, India and Pakistan.

    You didn’t explained clearly why Jordan, Poland, Czech Republic, India and Pakistan don’t have to allow returns of refugees, because only Palestinians refugees have right to return, or maybe only Jews must allow refugees to return. Can you make it more clear?

    Nelson Mandela fought against an apartheid regime in which Blacks and Whites had no equal right, there were separated schools, hospitals, beaches and parks. In Israel Arabs and Jews have the same rights, and we agree that Nelson Mandela is real hero.
     
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    whataboutism.

    At best you drag in some kind of "logic" that because Jews wronged somewhere in the world by Arabs, it means an other Jew gets to thieve the real estate from some random other Arab and kick the person out of the country. It's truly seriously racist. Good job.
     
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    We call see a slight increase in the amount of settlers in the WB (blue line) right around the time those hand full of settlers in Gaza left.

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    I already commented on this, that I support your opinion that the atrocities committed by the Soviets is just what Israeli Jews did.


    If they had the same rights, it would mean those +700,000 Arab civilians and their descendants would get their real estate back.
    But they do not have those rights. Only the Jew has such rights in Israel.
    That's apartheid.
     
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    Lol... again you are very funny.
    Funny .. funny funny.
    I understand Arabs.
    I understand the Palestinian Jihad wall of lies.
    Nobody stole "real estate" from Arabs .. they were at war and some fled from the holy land.
    On the other hand, Arabs expelled , murdered and deported Jews from their houses in Yeman, Lybia, Syria, Tunisia, Iraq etc.
    The Jewish Nakba.
    Mufti Haj Amin Kalb Hussaini was a Nazi.
    Arabs live in Israel .. Abu Adolf Mazen does not permitt Jews to live in "Palestinian areas" - so who is racist ? LOL !!
    Mashallhh Ya Rab .. We are fed up with the pro Islamo Jihado Arabo propaganda.
     
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    They fled, and by law those civilians were not allowed to return home because the weren't Jew enough.
    And so people who were enough Jew, thieved their real estate.
    That's ethnic cleansing and thieving.

    It didn't happen. It's just the same zionistic lies.
    Italy, who fought alongside with Nazi Germany controlled Libya in WWII. They got almost all the Jews killed.
    After the war, the few Jews who survived went to Israel as part of their Aliyah.

    The Tunisian Jews were never demanded to go. Hence they still send their kids to their Jewish schools there.
    https://www.torahvehinouch.org/about-us/

    And it was Israel who arranged the Jews to leave Jemen.

    etc etc

    He never was part of the nazi party or something, so you're just lying.
    While the Jews forged the Haavara Agreement, and so fully were cooperating with Hitler.

    Some are,... and and +700,000 and their descendants are not.
     
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    All you wrote is the pure Palestinian wall of lies propaganda.
    Lies that they teach in Arab schools.
    Lies that some Arab countries embrace to keep the Palestinian Bedouins a bleeding wound in the M.E.
    Well, as the years pass on, Many Arab countries reach peace with the Israelis.. even Saudi is starting normalization... the Arab world is FED UP with the Palestinian liers !! Take billions from Europe and Arabs and continue to moan and cry.
    Give us a break
     
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    You're just being petty when I sourced my claims, calling it all lies... but not actually proving that you're right.
    Nobody cares about a zionist ranting racist rhetoric.
     
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    Israel strikes on Gaza kill 7, including senior militantSource: AP

    By FARES AKRAM

    GAZA CITY, Gaza Strip (AP) — The Palestinian Health Ministry says Israeli airstrikes on Gaza have killed at least seven people, including a five-year-old girl, and wounded another 40.

    The Islamic Jihad militant group says one of its Gaza commanders was among those killed.

    Israel launched the airstrikes after days of tensions following the arrest of a senior Islamic Jihad member in the occupied West Bank.

    THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE. AP’s earlier story follows below.

    GAZA CITY, Gaza Strip (AP) — Israel unleashed a wave of airstrikes in Gaza on Friday, killing at least four people, including a senior militant, according to Palestinian officials. Israel said it was targeting the Islamic Jihad militant group amid days of heightened tensions following the arrest of a senior militant in the occupied West Bank earlier this week.

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    An Israeli soldier secures tanks in an area near the border with Gaza Strip, Friday, Aug. 5, 2022. Israel has closed roads near Gaza and sent in troop reinforcements as it braces for a possible revenge attack, following the arrest of a senior Palestinian militant in the occupied West Bank earlier this week. (AP Photo/Ariel Schalit)


    Read more: https://apnews.com/article/israel-strikes-gaza-rising-tensions-4539de5f30c605b3423d3472351cd638
     
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    From Hitler to Putin: Palestinian habit of always backing 'wrong side'.
    In 1940s, then-Palestinian leader Mufti Hajj Amim al-Husseini spent most of WWII in Berlin cheering on Adolf Hitler; now, PA chief Mahmoud Abbas is one of few Arab
    leaders backing Russia and its ally Iran in Ukraine war

    https://www.ynetnews.com/article/b1gsosfxs
     

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