Paragraph 44 of the indictment

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  1. fiddlerdave

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    Emphasis added to help the Trumpies to understand that Mueller isn't yet done with his work.
     
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    So you cant tweet a "Russian"???
     
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    I disagree, and I'm a Republican. I think we need to be very aware.
     
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    Its all about nothing as we do the same.
     
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    It appeared that he was making a joke at the time. Of course, it was in his usual poor and belligerent taste.

    Of course, from what we know now, there appears to have been two distict audiences for his remarks.

    At the time, reports of suspicions of Russian meddling were already appearing in the press. The right wing noise machine was busy anointing Julian Assange as a speaker of truth, and denying that the Russians were his source.

    Recall, this occurred two months after George Papadopolous told senior Trump campaign officials (Trump was in the room) that the Russians had told him they had this material.

    It also occurred after the infamous Donald Trump Jr meeting.

    It also occurred after Manafort's offer to Oleg Deripashka to provide secret insider briefings on the goings on in the Trump campaign.
     
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    No, it isn't all about nothing.
     
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    Certainly didn’t need a special prosecutor for this indictment. What was Obama’s FBI and DOJ doing at this time? Oh yeah, trying to influence the election.
     
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    Now that's BS logic. If I rob a bank, that makes it OK for you to rob on too!

    Trumster thinking at its finest.
     
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    We don't need to be instructed to be informed by someone whose "facts" consist of discredited claims and ridiculous conspiracy theories.
     
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    That doesn't make any sense at all.

    But it is the kind of idiotic nonsense Trump wants his fans to believe.
     
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    Sure you can..... I'd just be suspicious of a former campaign official and close friend of a candidate of one party tweeting with an entity who I've already accused of stealing information from the candidate of the second party.... But since optics don't matter anymore, this is just a crazy set of coincidences, huh??......
     
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    The GRU is Russian military intelligence. I'm sure that you never knew that.

    So, yes, the United States has been and is still under a continuing sustained cyber attack led by the Russian military.

    It has been going on for at least four years.
     
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    what should we do about it, Republican Dave? 'awareness' PSAs? war? tribunals at the Hague? turn off the internet...or just social media?

    the truth is, Republican Dave, like racism, bigotry and greed, nothing can be done about it. nothing at all. it's a tempest in a teacup.
     
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    What? Nice childish insult at the end.
    There are set penalties that you or anyone would face for "robbing a bank".. There is no such thing when we "meddle". We have a rich history of doing such.
     
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    What nonsense.
     
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    You need to look up the definition of sloth. I'm glad someone enjoys the spectacle of Bob Mueller's taxpayer subsidized circus though ... :roll:
     
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    Why did THIS HAPPEN...and WHY isn't the Witch Hunt "investigating" it?


    The Obama team knew that the Russians were meddling


    https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/car...-the-russians-were-meddling-varney/vi-AAz1iN9




    Obama cyber chief confirms 'stand down' order against Russian cyberattacks in summer 2016

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/obama-cy...ssian-cyberattacks-summer-2016-204935758.html


    Wow...talk about "COLLUSION".

    WHAT DID OBAMA KNOW, and WHEN DID HE KNOW IT?

    When is the Witch Hunt going to "investigate" that?
     
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    Indeed, it is very clear. And it will be transparent once the American, not named, are named.

    There is little doubt that Roger Stone is one of these people. And he knew exactly what he was doing and who he was talking to.

    The fact that friends of Putin are deep into Trump's financial dealings are going to become a subject of public discussion in a few months as well (if not sooner).

    Back when Trump rode down the escalator, I thought his refusal to supply his tax returns was primarily motivated by the fact that he isn't nearly as rich as he claims to be. I knew about Russian involvement in his businesses. I was not aware of the full extent (and there is still a lot out there to learn).

    Mueller probably has all this information. Prosecutors can get your tax records without you knowing it. And the Trump transition team stupidly started talking back and forth in the open on .gov e-mail accounts right after the election, which made their correspondence public record.

    Recall that this was the period when first Jared Kushner and later Erik Prince tried to set up secret back channel communications between the White House and the Russian FSB, when Mike Flynn was going around the middle east plugging some crazy nuclear development scheme, all of them were talking to various Russians (and later trying to lie their way out of it).

    These guys didn't think they were going to win, and thus, had nothing to lose. They were trying to make as much money as fast as they could or secure some sort of position. All of them are political amateurs. None of them have any sense of duty or integrity. And many of them are flat out reckless. They left a trail of evidence as wide as an interstate highway.
     
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    :) Please, stop being so reluctant to make an effort.
     
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    Really? Then why did THIS HAPPEN...and WHY isn't the Witch Hunt "investigating" it?


    The Obama team knew that the Russians were meddling


    https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/car...-the-russians-were-meddling-varney/vi-AAz1iN9




    Obama cyber chief confirms 'stand down' order against Russian cyberattacks in summer 2016

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/obama-cy...ssian-cyberattacks-summer-2016-204935758.html


    Wow...talk about "COLLUSION".

    WHAT DID OBAMA KNOW, and WHEN DID HE KNOW IT?





    When is the Witch Hunt going to "investigate" that?
     
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    okay...for starters, maybe high ranking government officials...Secretaries of State, for example...shouldn't conduct The People's classified business on private unsecured servers that are secreted away in their master bathrooms...

    and maybe when they get caught doing stuff like that they should face the music... like lowly military personnel do, for example.... versus, you know, being cleared to ascend to the most powerful political office in America... the world

    as we can't expect to ever slow it down, much less stop it, securing against meddling in America's business (both public and private) is America's responsibility.
     
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    Actualy, the seriously discussed making the entire thing public. But when Mitch McConnell found out about it, he threatened to turn the entire right wing noise machine on to attack the credibility of the agencies and the evidence (which is what the conservatives have been doing for the past two years anyway). Since the expectation was that Clinton was going to win anyway, the White House chose not to hand such an opportunity to Trump.

    In any event, the right wing "blame Obama for not stopping Trump" argument is about as lame as the rest of the excuses and distractions we have been fed steadily for 18 months.

    Trump, and his associates are the criminals. They are the ones who should have done what any patriotic American would have done when approached by the Russians, alert the FBI.

    Instead, the FBI learned about what Trump and the Russians were doing from foreign intelligence agencies (more than just one).

    Trump didn't do his duty as a citizen. Instead, he looked for ways to cash in.

    And Trump isn't going to do his duty as a citizen and confront Putin either.
     
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    More BULLSHIT to cover the Obama Swamp's crimes.

    "Trump didn't do his duty as a citizen"?

    He wasn't INFORMED IT WAS HAPPENING, UNLIKE OBAMA.

    WHO TF "DIDN'T DO THEIR DUTY", AGAIN?

    ARE YOU SERIOUS???


    The Obama team knew that the Russians were meddling


    https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/car...-the-russians-were-meddling-varney/vi-AAz1iN9




    Obama cyber chief confirms 'stand down' order against Russian cyberattacks in summer 2016

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/obama-cy...ssian-cyberattacks-summer-2016-204935758.html


    Wow...talk about "COLLUSION".

    WHAT DID OBAMA KNOW, and WHEN DID HE KNOW IT?





    When is the Witch Hunt going to "investigate" that?
     
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    lol. nothing is ever the left's fault. ever. pure as the wind driven snow, they. little angels, all.
     
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