Parkland student questioned by school security for visiting gun range

Why don’t we ban military style weapons for civilians and then see what happens....It certainly can’t get worse

 

By what authority?

 

Regulations like we have for cars

 

I take the time to answer your questions the best I can yet I don't seem to receive the same courtesy.

Can you guarantee what I bolded? That's a bold statement.

Anyway, could you define "military style weapons" please? Just about every "style" of firearm on the planet has seen military action of some kind whether it be during war time or peace time.

I'm most likely going to be inheriting some firearms that were actually used in the military by my father, so I'm very curious as what your definition of "military style weapons" is. Please explain.

 

I am confused at how you can see what I wrote as discourteous. Of course I cannot guarantee what you bolded. But my statement was that it can’t get much worse. Since most Mass shootings involve this particular gun, why not regulate them and let’s see..You may be right, or I may be right. If you are right we are exactly where we were, if I am right we might have few were dead people from mass shootings
I think you are being disingenuous when you say you don’t know what military style weapons are. My husband just sent my nephew military style weapons (by your definition) , they were black powder guns. I think you were being disingenuous here.

 

Are you really sure you want to do that? Because having been a car salesman I could legally sell a car to a buyer without a license, insurance, or even having them registering it and having it tagged. It's perfectly legal as long as the vehicle remains on the buyers property and isn't driven on public roads. In fact I have a truck that's basically a ghost. Again, are you sure you want to go that route with guns? And cars can cross state lines if they are registered and tagged and the driver is licensed and insured. You going to allow the same for guns? That's not even allowed now.

Besides... apples and oranges really.

 

Frank I think we are just going around in circles. You fight for guns that can mass kill and I will fight against them. We just have different priorities
Ps why did I have to show insurance proof?
PPS I think we probably agree on more than we disagree

 

Not saying you're being discourteous, it's just a lot of my questions go unanswered. The reason I asked you to define "military style weapons" is because that can cover a very broad range of weapons. I don't think I'm being disingenuous in asking that at all. I'm just curious as to see what your definition of a "military style weapon" is. And I have yet to define what a military style weapon is. What I said was that just about every "style" of firearm on the face of the planet has seen military action whether it be war time or peace time.

That would basically include just about every rifle, handgun, revolver, and shotgun. Are you wanting to ban all of those?

 

What motor vehicles has the united states prohibited from private ownership, and ordered the surrender and confiscation of already existing models that were purchased prior to the prohibition coming into place?

 

So, state authority? Not federal?

 

All I'm trying to do is find out how far you're willing to go if a the AR-15 ban fails. Which it most likely will. Also, a lot of anti-gun people say the AR-15 is the first step. The first step to what? Delaney Tarr let the mask slip a bit when she said "When they give us that inch, that bump stock ban, we will take a mile." What does that even mean? What mile? Do you not see how statements like that could make a lot of fun owners nervous?

Anyway...

Answer me this...
The thing that I find most confusing about those that want to ban the Ar-15 is that they don't want to go after the guns that cause most of the gun deaths in our country. Why is that? It's a very inconsistent position. If you want to prevent gun deaths then why aren't you gong after the guns that actually cause the most gun deaths? Or is banning the AR-15 a step to getting to that?

Probably to test drive or that you are driving on public roads.

I sold several trucks to farmers and the paper work in doing those was a joke, but perfectly legal. No license, insurance, or registration involved. Just gave them the title and off they went with the trucks on a flatbed.

Probably. If you go to the two threads about Iowas new crazy abortion laws (why there are two threads seems unnecessary) you'd probably agree with most, if not all that I've said there. Oh, and now it's been merged into one thread now. Should be for a fun read.

 

As I said, I’m not going to go I’m circles around guns, All I know is practically every mass murder was done with an AK 15. You want them to be around, fine..We just have different priorities
Just curious when you sold trucks to farmers did they not take a test run? If they did , didn’t they need to be licensed?

 

More like a difference of opinions than priorities. And I'm okay with that.

Some did and some didn't but the ones that did just test drove them around our lot and our off-road area, which is private land. We were on an 8 or 10 acre lot (can't remember off hand) so we had room to do things most other dealerships didin't. You don't need a license or even insurance to do a test drive while on the lot (our insurance would cover the costs if there was an accident on the lot, but that never happened when I was selling cars.). Going out on the main roads they would have to have at least a license for a test drive, and insurance for an extended test drive. It was kind of a judgement call on the license thing while test driving on the lot. I mean, we obviously didn't let little kids, or those we thought might not have ever driven a vehicle drive one. These were mostly older people that needed work trucks for their farms. I sold vehicles from 2012-2015 so things might have changed a little, but from the sales staff I still talk to they tell me it hasn't. But I can't say for sure as I haven't been on a lot in over four years, but it probably hasn't changed.

What;'s interesting is some of those sales were done completely over the phone, especially for repeat buyers that knew what they wanted. It was like taking an order over the phone at a restaurant. All they had to do was come in, drop off their payment, and take delivery. Sometimes we'd deliver to customers. I did quite a few of those for all kinds of buyers.

Sorry that went on a bit. The car business is really interesting, but I'm glad to be done with it. Got too stressful and the hours were/are insane. Good money though if you can hack it.

 

What I find ****ed up is the person who thinks that constitutional rights are not taught in school. To me that is a stupid person. That is a person who doesn’t bother to learn the curriculum and just says stupid things

 

Constitution rights are not taught in school.

 

Of course they are. They are part of the history curriculum. They can’t get public funding if they don’t teach the constitution .

 

The truth slowly trickles out about the Broward County School District and how they covered over many of the illegalities of Nikolas Cruz
by putting him in the Promise Program. http://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/b...ool-shooting-cruz-promise-20180507-story.html

Many families with dead children due to his shooting want to know why deputies were instructed to stand down while kids were being
systematically killed.
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/b...ol-shooting-response-fail-20180223-story.html

And why the killer was given permission to flaunt the law and develop his anti social behavior by being put into the Promise Program.

Guns don't kill students. The Broward County School District does.