Parkland student questioned by school security for visiting gun range

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  1. AlphaOmega

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    an excellent point. Akin to when rinos claim to be conservatives but in reality...arent. Thanks for the post.
     
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    thats exactly what theyve done. In fact on other forums the distinction is being made that they arent even fellow Americans, they are traitors. A true American liberal such as you claim to be...which is uncommon...or approaching non existence, does not violate our laws or encourage our laws and constitution to be violated. We may disagree but the left identifying today as liberals are as you said authoritarians not liberal. Liberals in name only. Certainly when I was younger I agreed with them on many issues...but not the things they are pulling in todays political climate. Its refreshing to see a true liberal. Its like seeing a white rhino.
     
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    Absolutely.
    Or is it better for the sheriff, cops, FBI, not investigate activity when brought to their attention.
    RWer, make up your minds,
     
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    I can see that. Clinton was a bit to the left of me on some issues. I’m more of a Kennedy liberal. Some would probably consider that conservative by today’s standards. I’m no longer a Democrat as that party has gone off the rails into authoritarianism and identity politics. I’ve been an independent for the past 20 plus years now.
     
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    If you're RW and don't complain about something, they call you RINO.
    So to avoid that label, they complain when there underwear wasn't changed for them.
     
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    Why is this a RW or LW issue? This is an improper police action issue in regards to Kyle. An act of overreach on the part of the police.
     
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    Yeah, there aren't too many of my kind left around any more. It's kind of sad and scary.
     
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    What activity or statement led to the questioning?
     
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    Indeed. Centrists have become the "far right". I grew up in a family of Blue Dog Dems, but they are largely extinct now....replaced by people like Pelosi, Waters, Perez and Ellison.

    The DNC is now really just America's communist party.
     
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    There is without question something odd and off in both the kid and the father who could enjoy putting holes into paper targets when it was only a few months before that a nut did the same into the flesh of thirty or so of the kid classmates killing 17 of them.

    Now whether he is a danger to others or not is another matter/question and taking mild steps to get an idea one way or the other seem a duty of the people who are charge with the safety of the school.
     
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    There has to be conservatives there and there has to be liberals that aren't profoundly stupid there.
     
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    Pretty much. It's a bit mind numbing seeing how far left the Democrats have gone over the years. I don't care for the identity politics either.
     
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    What in particular is odd or off in the kid or father based on their recent activity? Did they threaten anyone while at the gun range? Was anyone threatened online in that Tweet? Now if they'd made targets to look like people they disagree politically, or made threatening statements while at the gun range, I could see that as being odd, or off. Sounds to me like they put holes in some paper targets. Big whoop.

    I don't see this kid as being a danger to himself, or to others and it isn't the job of the police to or school to question this based on something so innocuous. Those making a big deal out of this or think it's odd or off for the kid or father to do what they've done for a while now might want to calm down and stop jumping to hyperbolic conclusions.
     
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    I really feel sorry for people who think that just because someone has a d by their name their automatically competent are people really this deft I mean I understand the loud mouth commies that post here are but are they really reflective of the left? Have they completely lost their ability to think rationally?
     
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    It's not really weird. We want police to do their job which they failed to do and it resulted in 17 people being murdered in a school. Harassing people for doing something that is not the least bit suspicious is not really worth anything that's not investigation that stupidity and what do we expect from the Department whose police were too cowardly to enter the building when the shooter they neglected two arrests over two dozen times was murdering people.

    We want the police going after criminals not people exercising their Second Amendment right.
     
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    I believe they were called out to the shooters house over two dozen times and did nothing and they arrived at the scene of the murder before it was completed and did nothing. It was brought to the FBI's attention that this person was being suspicious and they did nothing.

    Now they're harassing students in school for something that isn't the least bit suspicious?
    there's no contradiction here going to the gun range with your father and shooting a gun is not suspicious the police being called out to your house 26 times is.

    My Mind Is Made Up don't harrass people for things that are not suspicious and when you get called out to someone's house 26 times maybe do something.

    That opinion seems profoundly consistent.
     
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    Because that seems to be what the case is. I believe it was prompted by a social media post. Meanwhile they allow the Parkland shooter to become as nutty as possible and blow away 17 people at a school.

    Forgive me for my skepticism of their competence. But 17 people were murdered in a school because they failed to do their job.
     
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    That isn't entirely true. We also want police to respond to citizen complaints, determine if an investigation is warranted, and proceed from there.

    In this case several people complained, the police did an initial investigation that included talking to the student, and it was determined that no further action was necessary. They did so in a way so that this isn't even a part of his juvenile record. No harm. No foul. Case closed. Unless the kid keeps whining about it on social media, gets courted by conservative outlets, and shows up on Fox News complaining about how he was "harassed for exercising his constitutional rights".

    Oh, wait. That's exactly what he's done. https://twitter.com/KyleKashuv?ref_src=twsrc^tfw&ref_url=http://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/kyle-kashuv-pro-gun-parkland-student-questioned-by-police-over-gun-range-videos-10293269

    This kid has become as much of a media hound as the right accuses David Hogg of being, and frankly, his tweets tow the pro-gun narrative so closely it's as if Wayne LaPierre is whispering in his ear.

    He is nothing but a pawn, just like Hogg.
     
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    going to a gun range in its self doesn't make you a threat doesn't make you dangerous doesn't make you a suspect
    being in possession of a gun with a history of violence and or mental health issues does
     
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    The remnant.
     
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    And it all starts somewhere. These cops were, no doubt, just making sure that that day wasn't today. It's called due diligence.
     
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    Did you intent to show contradiction or hypocrisy in your statement there?

    Because if so you might want to re-read it.

    Kyle Kashuv isn't a nut and he wasn't recommended to school staff or law enforcement.

    He was a normal law abiding innocent person who went to a gun range on his personal time and put a picture of it on his social media.

    The school was monitoring him because he was that "2nd amendment kid" (their words btw read the article) which is where they found the pics that gave them pseduo-justification to interrogate.

    They had no reason what so ever, not one slight iota of cause, to pull him in and drill him with questions without the presence of his parents btw (hope he sues on that as well).

    That is why I drop the Nazi label.

    Because this isn't a case of police receiving actionable evidence that a troubled person with a gun is going to lash out.

    This is a case of a gestapo that is anti-firearm and anti-2nd and obviously has prejudice against Kyle specifically using their previous inaction as an excuse to persecute.

    And what about David Hogg hmm? ...has he been interrogated?

    Because he has access to firearms and he's told us he "knows how to use them".

    Hes been rampaging across the country spewing hate and placing metaphorical targets on people and making statements like "I'm ****ing pissed" and "I cant take it anymore".

    If anyone fits the bill of a nutjob that is about to crack and kill a bunch of people its Hogg.

    So I ask again, has he been hauled before this Nazi commission and interrogated?
     
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    1. Nothing was "brought to their attention" they school hired a private security company and paid them to drill through kids social media.

    2. What they found was not some sinister plot it was a father son outing.
     
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    so we need to question every gun owner in America that has never had a history of violence and or mental health issues because you know "it all starts somewhere."
     

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