Part 35 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

You claimed it was created by god. Prove that statement.

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But you can't make that statement. All you can state is that you believe it was created by god.

Then please provide this evidence.

Never know. Provide this evidence and we can discuss it.

 

The demons were let loose by Satan to counter the effects of Jesus.


/sarcasm/

 

Yes, all those sinful, wicked, depraved six year old boys and girls... all those sinful, wicked, depraved infants...all those sinful, wicked, depraved embryos. It's a good thing we had a god who mercifully drowned them or buried them alive in mudslides. Praise to god!

 

Nah, he thinks they were already gone, every child, baby, and fetus were cannibalized before the flood.

 

Mitt, do you know what a Post Hoc Fallacy is?

 

Why do you ask?...are you believing I have committed such a fallacy?

 

Yes. You assume that animals were able to fit on the ark "because Noah did it", without any actual proof that Noah did in fact do it. You are assuming it to be true.

 

He is not assuming anything. The evidence for his belief is that the bible says it happened. The actual proof lies in the fact that the bible is the word of god.

What more do you want.




/sarcasm/

 

Some minimal possibility of millions of animals fitting into ANYTHING would be nice. Maybe the water on Earth doubling , or perhaps a means of feeding and removing the excrement said animals by seven humans being defined. I suppose an explanation for dinosaurs might help as well.

 

Babylonian Ark

 

In the year 1872 one George Smith, a bank(*)note engraver turned assistant in the British Museum, astounded the world by discovering the story of the Flood – much the same as that in the Book of Genesis – inscribed on a cuneiform tablet made of clay that had recently been excavated at far-distant Nineveh (in present-day Iraq). Human behaviour, according to this new discovery, prompted the gods of Babylon to wipe out mankind through death by water, and, as in the Bible, the survival of all living things was effected at the last minute by a single man.

For George Smith himself the discovery was, quite plainly, staggering, and it propelled him from back-room boffin to worldwide fame. Much arduous scholarly labour had preceded Smith’s extraordinary triumph, for his beginnings were humble. Endless months of staring into the glass cases that housed the inscriptions in the gallery resulted in Smith being “noticed”, and eventually he was taken on as a “repairer” in the British Museum in about 1863.


The young George exhibited an outstanding flair for identifying joins among the broken fragments of tablets and a positive genius for understanding cuneiform inscriptions; there can be no doubt that he was one of Assyriology’s most gifted scholars.


At first, Smith was unable to decipher the tablet that would change his life, because a lime-like deposit obscured the text. Only once this had been painstakingly removed – an agonising wait for the highly strung Smith – could all the words be read. A contemporary observer reported what happened next:


“Smith took the tablet and began to read over the lines which… had [been] brought to light; and when he saw that they contained the portion of the legend he had hoped to find there, he said, 'I am the first man to read that after more than two thousand years of oblivion.’

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/books/10574119/Noahs-Ark-the-facts-behind-the-Flood.html

 

Coracle

 

Yeah....but the Sumerian version is much better, no doves.

 

Lucky for you I studied Old Testament Greek. They are real.

You're welcome.

 

The Sumerian story is a thousand years before Moses...

 

Not sure who you claim to be respected Christian scholars.

http://evidenceforchristianity.org/gospeldates/

https://books.google.com/books?id=l...re written within 100 years of Jesus.&f=false

http://www.forerunner.com/realjesus/myth2.html

Here are three. There are many, many more.

http://mitchjaegerministry.blogspot.com/2011/01/why-are-gospels-written-in-third-person.html

http://education.seattlepi.com/narrative-styles-gospels-5804.html

 

Likely much older....this is merely the first time we found it written down. Christians did get pretty damn creative with it though.

 

Instead of opening up study of ancient history and the region.. or opening up the study of archeology and geology, the fundamentalists conspire to keep Christians ignorant and stuck in epic fairy tales.

 

This is literally the history of ALL religions.

 

Can you explain why it's written in the modern Greek instead of one of the earlier Greek alphabets?
http://www.ancientscripts.com/greek.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_Greek

 

The subject we are discussing is whether or not the gospels were first hand accounts. You believe they were. In defense of your argument, you posted a bunch of links. You did not quote from the links. I guess you just hoped I would be overwhelmed and concede the argument.

Well, I did look at one of your links.

I guess you didn't even bother to read what your link contained. Here is one part (My emphases)

What does "just as they were handed on to us" and "compiling information" imply? It implies that Luke is basing his writings on what other people have told him. Even the author of your link acknowledges this. Luke did not write in an eyewitness fashion because he was not an eyewitness to what he was writing about. Not because, as you suggest, in was the style of the day.

Here is more from your own link (My emphases)

You have been arguing that the gospels are firsthand eyewitness accounts. I asked for evidence. You provided links that thoroughly and completely discredit your argument.

Well done indeed.

 

This is literally all human histories. Try to open any history book written some 2000 years ago, then go through each section and ask "how this section is supported by evidence/geology...and etc.". All humans history now become fairy tales.

 

Books didn't exist 2,000 years ago.

 

Emphases mine..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Library_of_Alexandria​

The Royal Library of Alexandria or Ancient Library of Alexandria in Alexandria, Egypt, was one of the largest and most significant libraries of the ancient world. It was dedicated to the Muses, the nine goddesses of the arts.[1] It flourished under the patronage of the Ptolemaic dynasty and functioned as a major center of scholarship from its construction in the 3rd century BC until the Roman conquest of Egypt in 30 BC, with collections of works, lecture halls, meeting rooms, and gardens. The library was part of a larger research institution called the Musaeum of Alexandria, where many of the most famous thinkers of the ancient world studied.
The library was created by Ptolemy I Soter, who was a Macedonian general and the successor of Alexander the Great.[2] Most of the books were kept as papyrus scrolls. It is unknown precisely how many such scrolls were housed at any given time, but estimates range from 40,000 to 400,000 at its height.​

 

Scrolls are not books.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book