Part IV Post your tough Questions on Christianity

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  1. Incorporeal

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    In this thread I entered with a challenge to you to prove your positive claim. Now you want to back pedal and say that 'no one can know for sure'. That is a complete reversal of your former statement. Why could you not have been honest in your original statement instead of making such a dishonest statement as you did in the original statement you made? Is honesty something that evades your character? I have often reminded others on this forum that 'no one can know for sure'. Knowing for sure would defeat the purpose of faith and would also defeat the teachings of the Bible. I just plain and simply enjoy making the same challenge to non-theists that non-theists make toward theists. So now you admit to making an opinion... Cool... do you believe that your opinion is of any greater authority than the opinion of someone else? If 'yes', then please explain why you think your opinion is greater than the opinion held by someone else, then explain why you attempt to justify your opinion with rationalizations.
     
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    Many Biblical scholars deny the Biblical Exodus and/or various aspects of the story.

    3 million people for example is not possible. 600,000 thousand warriors would not be afraid of 600 of Egypt's chariots.

    The Israelites felt fear entering the promised land ? Considering that these settlements might field at most 5000 warriors .. what is there to be afraid of ?

    Jericho for example is estimated to have had 3000 people (perhaps then being able to field 500 warriors ?)

    Why would 600,000 warriors be afraid ?

    It is absolutely absurd to suggest that there is any science out there that shows that every living thing in the whole world was destroyed on the basis of harsh weather conditions from 2000-2300 BC. (You have provided no evidence in support of this claim)

    What is scientific fact is that there were continuous civilizations numerous places throughout the world during the period of the Biblical flood.


    See bold. It was pointed out to you that the Bible is very clear in stating that every living thing that walked on land was destroyed.

    Clearly God did destroy all humans according to the Bible. This contradicts your assertion that God decided not to kill all living things.



    When do you think God created the first man? .. roughly 6000 years ago as the Bible states ?
     
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    Then I can't see how Mitt Ryan's explanation that there were no true innocents on Earth at the time of the Flood, unless God saw babies as evil too.

    So, human sacrifices to their Gods stopped after the Great Flood, never happened again?

    Which still goes on to this day. Apparently God failed.

    There are still tribes in Latin America that have never even contacted the rest of the world. Why hasn't Jesus made himself known to them?
     
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    You missed the what is an "ape"? What is "kind"? It was quite entertaining. A bit long so I just glossed over most of it.
     
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    I missed the tracing roots to the Jews thing.
    Can you post your proof again or point me to the thread #?
    As far as I know, there is no history of Israel to Egypt during any exodus period. Except for the bible.
    And for simplicity. Moses was born XXXXBC and died XXXXBC and exodus began XXXXBC. And the pharaoh was ..........
     
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    Well ... when a post starts with such a gross and absurd generalization

    There were at least a few Biblical scholars that disputed the Exodus on the History channel the other day but you know .... perhaps some folks do not yet have television ?!
     
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    Awesome - I think we've made some progress. Even if we still largely disagree, the fact that you at least acknowledge the possibility that some of your interpretations could be wrong (even though I know you're pretty sure they aren't) is something of a relief.
     
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    The stories are contradicted by that reaction, and the reaction of all the Jews who also witnessed the miracles. If the Biblical sales brochure had been true, all the witnesses would have gladly given up their miserable lives under Rome and believed they would go straight to heaven. They all chickened out, proving that there were never any miracles at all.
     
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    Another contradiction in the story. After all those plagues demonstrating the power of God, plus the Red Sea becoming dry land to let them into the Sinai, do you think they would worship a Golden Calf the first chance they got? You don't know about human nature, because humans are just dirt to you, fit only for enslavement by religion.
     
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    The Flood came about the time that the Indo-Europeans spread from India to Ireland. South of them, near Azerbaijan, were the pre-historic Israelites. Both races were driven out from their homelands by a Genghis Khan type invader, whom they named their gods after.

    In the Middle East, the Hebrews found half-breed Neanderthals, whom they interbred with until the patriarchs realized that mongrelization was making the Hebrew race degenerate. They slaughtered the hybrids and drove them into the desert. This is represented as the Deluge.
     
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    you say there is a creator and u don't know for sure. I say there is not and I don't know for sure. live with it pal
     
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    LOLOLOLOLOL! Do you wish to stick by the claim that no Biblical scholars dispute the Exodus?
     
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    You can live knowing for sure there is no God and I can live knowing for sure there is a God. I am living with it.
    You are so sure there is no God, what if after you die then you learn there is a God, what happen then? You got nothing to loose with God but everything to loose without God.
     
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    after I die, ill be dead
     
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    http://www.bibleorigins.net/ExodusProblems.html
     
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    Simple. As a corporation, bound by corporate law, the Catholics had no choice but to be 'politically correct'.



     
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    All I can say now is that someone preceding this post got the html code all messed up.
     
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