Partisan Teachers and Progressive Stack

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  1. Steady Pie

    Steady Pie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Hi,

    So if you look at page 10 of today's The Australian, it has a story about Regina Wilson, a South Australian teacher and union delegate who vowed to "ensure the next generation of voters in my classroom don't vote Liberal".

    The backlash has been largely bipartisan, even Labor's Federal education shadow minister has denounced her.

    Anyway, this wasn't what caught my eye, teachers indoctrinating students, nothing new. What got me was her defence of herself:

    "Ms Wilson denies carrying through on her pledge, claiming she was being targeted as a woman"

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    Progressive stack is the new thing. If you are a woman, you are higher than a man. Her decision, therefore, is to assert her femininity as a defence. I am not guilty because I am a woman. The patriarchy is targeting me. They made me violate ethics rules. They made me admit to indoctrinating students. I'm a poor persecuted minority.

    Is this how our public life is going to play out now? Aren't we better than this as a nation? I thought Australia was supposed to about equality under the law and freedom, not discrimination and segregation, even for a supposedly good cause.

    Are we going to go off the deep end like Canada, Sweden, etc?
     
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    billy the kid Well-Known Member

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    Once diversification recruitment hit the boards, we were rooted.
     
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    Steady Pie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It has at my company.

    They have diversity struggle sessions
    They run campaigns against violence, but explicitly exclude violence against men from the concerns.
    They hire "marginalised" groups due to discrimination, not merit.
     
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    billy the kid Well-Known Member

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    Exactly, and services such as the Police suffer, because the quality of recruit these days
    is just abysmal...and if you have tits, you can get away with murder....
    Id hate to be a boss today..Id sell up and go fishing...
     
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    Steady Pie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I spend a bit of time around working class businesses and they are completely unaffected. Nobody gives a **** about bureaucracy, they have all the signs up incase the fuzz comes, but, for instance, nobody cares at all about the statewide ban on smoking. They are incredibly politically incorrect. Racial slurs everywhere.

    It astounds me just how out of touch with the working class a lot of the left is. It used to be their core demographic, now in an effort to engage in virulent identity politics they're turning their base into their worst enemy.

    If you think Roseanne was bad for saying someone looked like a character from the Planet of the Apes, geez, a lot of these ALP and Green MPs would absolutely implode if they ever actually talked to someone from the working class.

    This is, in my view, a big problem for the left of politics going forward. How to hang onto the working class while picking up and accelerating the displacement of the current citizenry with foreign lemmings.
     
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    Yes. I disagree with the point on immigration, but as for Labor apparatchiks not understanding the working class, totally agree. I suspect they'd be repulsed because they don't understand them. I'm not going to mythologise the working class, I am a working class person and I know many moronic ********s inhabit the serried ranks.
     
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    I was a little shocked myself when hearing a talk by our esteemed leading scientific moron Flannery on climate change. A person identifying herself as a child care educator ask a question prefacing the question with the fact she was embedding her students with the alarming climate crisis and the need for action based on the call from Flannery… Not an eye blinked...

    The point being, education in Australia has moved well away from teaching students of all ages HOW to think to WHAT to think. Greens, ALP and Coalition are guilty of attempting to indoctrinate children for their cause. Nothing new there, but when people come out in the open, suddenly it is a bad thing. Look at the gender neutral in education as example, tolerance is stated but not why. We have groups who want to teach diversity in sexuality by revoking gender in all it’s forms. Try teaching somebody how to consider that teaching. It is just easy to tell them to think the way the teacher wants.

    So she is condemned by both sides for telling the world she is a person who believes her opinion is the only one that counts and is trying to embed that opinion and belief into young students, yet she remains a trusted position to carry out her claim.

    But she is being victimised because she is a woman… I have been paying particular interest in several assertions on media and high profile individuals. ALL who have been accused of either inappropriate treatment or contact by women in several areas. NONE have made a complaint to authorities but all have made it public, with the exception of one I know of. ALL have been berated in the media, convicted by the media and readers wrecking careers disparaging characters of people all to either inflict harm in vengeance or to shift the blame.

    Some I have no doubt are true complaints. HOWEVER, many say they did not want a complaint to define their character or it would have affected their career detrimentally so they wouldn’t lodge complaints. BUT hey they were happy enough to tell the media and have them disparage their victims without due recourse. While still they lodge no complaints.

    Unfortunately, the gender complaint and defence will be carried on media and social media. In an area that nobody can defend themselves and whoever tells the best story against the tallest poppy will always win, regardless of the truth, as we see already
     
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    I am Canadian..... and I plead guilty.... our Prime Minister is going way too far to the left.......
    but I have to admit it...... so far as our 2019 federal election goes he might just be onto a
    brilliant political strategy?!

    Could P. M. Justin Trudeau be a Political Genius?

     
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    When I saw all the indoctrinated children protesting I was immediately reminded of Hitlers Brown Shirts and the way German children were indoctrinated to hate Jews in the 1930's. How long before we have a leftist driven Krystallnacht?
     
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    This isn't new- I remember my son taking part in a demo 26 years ago when he was fourteen. I think it's a healthy sign when students protest.
    It shows social conscience and an awareness of the world unusual in a fourteen year old boy- they are inclined to be self centred.
     
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    That would be nice if it was not the social conscience and awareness of the teachers and parents.
     
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    You could give credit to a young person for having his own opinion.
    When you were at school, did you accept everything your teacher told you, unquestioningly?
     
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    Great observation!

    And yes, the Left is grotesquely out of touch with its base. It's literally the party of toffs, now. Role reversal.
     
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    Tops. I wonder how many anti-abortion demos will get off the ground in public high schools? Or free speech rallies? It's only healthy when it's balanced.

    Meantime, protesting is unusual in a 14 year old because they shouldn't be doing stuff like that. They have far more productive things to do in regards to their future, and in their present life-as-a-child.
     
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    I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but many high schoolers today regard their teachers as minor deities (apart from those few ubiquitous ****** teachers whom everyone hates). The sycophantic adoration is almost solely a consequence of political posturing. There is no critical thought involved. They're like the rote learners of old Taiwan, revering their masters, and accepting every word as gospel. Where's the questioning you support and encourage?
     
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    They are learning to think and to form their own opinions.
    Did any of your teenagers rebel against Mum and Dads rules?
     
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    Do you think there is any threat to free speech in Australia?
     
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    I think you may have just been lucky, as Australians have been dumbed down for years.
     
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    I've been told that the apple doesn't fall far from the tree, so perhaps it's just the school that has the effect.
    I have faith in young people. I don't think they are all uncritical.
     
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    Young people get older, and then spend their lives on their phone and guzzling beer, and watching the footy...oh and lesbian episodes of BlindDate....like most of dumbed down Australia...
     
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    My kids are getting ( getting,ha) older, 40s now, but they and their friends don't watch tv.
    They don't have kids and so have time and money to do fun stuff.
    Perhaps if you have kids you have to settle for different things.
     
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    If you mean did they break rules and do what they weren't supposed to do, then yes. But we're talking about things like switching off the modem at 10pm and putting dirty socks in the wash. Pragmatics related to priorities and responsibilities. They eschewed the usual teenage traps (drinking, drugs, cigarettes, staying out late, dating, etc) of their own volition.

    Meantime, learning to think and form their own opinions is of course, very important, but so is parental mediation of the immature tendency to loose focus on what matters. At 14, politics SHOULDN'T matter, and absolutely shouldn't be getting any of the limited resources the average 14 year old has. They need every molecule of energy and focus for the much more important jobs of physical growth, education, play, social skills, and future planning. There is no room for righteous anger at 14.
     
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    Yes. It's not as bad as the UK and Canada, but we're more likely to go their way than go America's way.
     
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    Depends on our social circles. I mix with migrants and folk from cultures which value education, so see the opposite. I do see white folk gettin' dumberer, though.
     
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    I don't know any older people who do that. They're too busy exercising, traveling, gardening, swimming, cycling, listening to music, and doing art.
     

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