Partisan Teachers and Progressive Stack

In their 40's and no grandbabies yet? Bummer, dude. Or maybe not. Not everyone wants to be a granny

 

Nuh, don't need any more kids in this world. Me, not grand maternal.

 

I'm in no hurry myself. I still remember changing poopy nappies and getting up umpteen times a night. They say you shouldn't make your folks grandparents until they've forgotten how hard it is

 

Well now, let us examine that very point. When I went to school I did not accept everything I was told, NO. So I don’t automatically accept the so call science of the alarmists and I do not automatically accept the policies and efforts to make changes.

Funny enough when I want to school, Activism was all about changing the appearance man’s impacts and the lessons were to make it alarming and cost affective to be activists for many causes. Global warming is just one of them. BUT when humans claim to be able to change anything in a world where they know less than .1% of what is happening in it is not just questionable but extremely irresponsible. So I question the claims of many say I should accept it because somebody else said it was so because they went to university and wrote a paper they think is fact…


SO let us put this action into that perspective. I group of young people are demanding the government do MORE to change this area. Well what is it they want??? Would they accept the greens policies??? HOW about ALP??? Just WHAT is their opinion???

From what I have heard they want to push for targets such as 50% renewables made by the ALP/ Greens. What party in the last 20 Years has actually made serious reductions in CO2 emissions??? Would that be the greens??? NO. Perhaps the ALP??? NO. In fact both their policies have been to tax the crap out of everybody and abate the emissions while presiding over doubling and quadrupling emissions. So the Coalition has, Under Howard, actually produced a real 8% reduction emissions.


So OK, on this forum was pointed out that perhaps we should look at subsidising the areas where real reductions of emissions could be achieved. That is to point out that residential premises actually produce miniscule emissions in comparison to commercial interests. I welcomed the admissions as this is exactly what Abbott did, all be it also tokenistic but in the right direction. You know the policies ALP/ Greens complain is paying the rich not to pollute. Another policy that attacks emissions at the source rather than demanding the poor pay for the dalliances of the Rich.

OK the party who has actually achieved TRUE reductions in emissions is the party everybody wants to complain is not doing enough. They would rather see people pay for their idealistic taxes and change the living standards to appear to be acting.

Now I know this ideal meets your particular belief of what is happening. BUT since only ONE party in government has actually achieved reductions while the others who freely admit they simply wish to abate it while they grow emissions. I would have to suggest the fact they will have formed an opinion based entirely on the information given to them. Since that information seems tainted by Bias, I can safely assume their opinion is from the so called social conscience of parents and teachers as they ignore some very poignant facts. Why would that be so??? So they form the opinion and belief their teachers and parents want them too.


So they get indoctrinated into this entire political preference. Long winded but why not??? I do think the simplistic view of these children who have no experience in life or ability to comprehend complex issues in politics are just showing their opinion they formed themselves by evaluating the information they study themselves.

 

You may be right, but why do you think life experience is necessary or that kids can't understand complex issues in politics?
Life experience doesn't necessarily confer wisdom, and some of our politicians are the most foolish people imaginable.
Eric Abetz said if you have an abortion, you'll get breast cancer. Scientifically proven.
Tony Abbott-Look, I’m going to shirt-front Mr. Putin … You bet I am.
Scott Morrison says Australians should take comfort that rising asset prices are offsetting big debts.
Can you prove that kids are being indoctrinated?

Im not sure what you mean by this.-
"In fact both their policies have been to tax the crap out of everybody and abate the emissions while presiding over doubling and quadrupling emissions"

 

Life experience is necessary to understanding the complex issues. For example, have you lived a life where you haven't eaten for three days without any knowledge of when you will every eat again??? maybe where you would shelter and sleep out of the rain??? Yet you think you know what is right for people in just that situation.


As for trying to point out the inadequacies of politicians... We can all do that in all areas. That rather reflects on you not them.

Can I prove it??? Err, did you not read the premise of the thread??? Oh and yes it does go both ways.


Greens and ALP think it is better tax and abate. READ THEIR POLICIES. Don't just take it for granted... That is indoctrinating people to assume. IN fact Gillard's carbon tax by their own modelling would see a doubling of emissions no reduction.

 

School kids are not the only ones who don't understand homelessness- not relevant.

Not proven.

 

Not relevant because others don't understand the complex issues??? That, I would suggest, is simplistic in the least but very relevant to activism. Activists would impose their ideals on others who have no say... That would be the very point...

Since it is the premise of the thread and you have not questioned that until it suites you, just saying it isn’t proven does nothing of the discussion.
I note though, when it supports the purpose of those it is applauded as being great to indoctrinate such as in YOUR case global warming. BUT when you don’t like it, oh the world is falling such as religious education. You cannot have it both ways…

 

A quote from one teacher doesn't prove that kids are being indoctrinated.

 

Really, the fact that you choose to ignore calls from many areas such as the Idiot flannery and Gore have consistently stated and pushed in their publications. The ideal of religious deity as the religious faiths you support or demean (depending on faith).SO YES, one quote from a teacher, who still remains teaching the children of Australia, does prove the point.
The fact you have nothing to dispute the rest of the comment, I assume you have nothing to add...

 

Looking back, a lot of the early political views I had were inculcated in me by opinionated teachers when I wasn't able to think critically for myself.

 

We were taught critical thinking when I was at school.
My political views came from my parents not my teachers.
I think it was because my Father taught me to be a bit suss of teachers because they didn't know everything in the world.

 

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/20...-Climate-Change-by-15-year-Old-Greta-Thunberg

This young lady deserves a Nobel prize, don't you think?

Hope our Liberal/National scum is wiped off this planet, they are my main concern.
Whey are the holding us back?

Happy to see our Aussie kids skipping school for a day, and teachers taking responsibilities.
Will Labor/Shorten deliver? Not much without the Greens, I am afraid to say......
Cheerio

 

This lily white child of immense privilege and an ivory tower life (parents are opera singer and actor, respectively ... no practical adults in her household to influence her), is bereft of even the slightest clue about a wild dream of what life at the coalface is like for the billions of brown peasants who make up the majority of humanity. Because SHE'S obscenely safe and well fed, and white, and has undoubtedly been encouraged to think in terms of her own supremacy in such matters, she believes she's entitled to dictate how it should be for those whose far more immediate needs make hers seem something close to pure arrogance.

 

Ha,
loved this one.
Are you part of a conservative party, or the coal/oil/gas industry, or lobbyist for similar?
At least she cares about tomorrow and the people you call peasants.....
Have a great day,
reg.

 

Dyed in the wool Lefty. Decades-long dedication to low impact living, and avid environmental warrior.

But I'm a hard-arsed Commie, not bourgeoisie. No time for the fey affectations and protestations of the biggest (individual) contributors of climate degradation on earth - the well heeled white western Progressive. The people they're trying to mess with ... and be sure that brown peasants will be negatively impacted by the edicts of their white Prog overlords ... are doing less damage than they are.

 

Hmmm,
I forgot to say I am thankful for your response, as you acknowledged her education (parents opera singer and actor).
Why can't we all be educated?
Cheers

 

You really have to wonder why people hate the truth so much (the content of the girls speech), the fact that we need to act and change.
WHY?
Some are always looking for someone they can bash, poor you....
Reg.

 

If you regard 'the arts' as education, sure. I don't. I regard them as the luxury hobbies of the rich and leisured. For mere mortals - those who must work for a living, education serves that purpose and that purpose alone. At $50k minimum for a college education, it can't be anything else.

Did you miss something in my Utilitarianism?

 

Since I openly declared my decades long dedication to low impact living, you must be on the back foot.

If only it weren't always soooo damned easy to pierce the wafer thin veneer of the faux Lefty.

 

Man doesn't live by bread alone (bread mat be metaphorical).

 

Sure. But until we have bread for life, it's outrageous to use the wheat for anything else. Once we've secured our bread supply, we can afford to indulge the non-bread uses of wheat.

To insist otherwise is bourgeois capitalism. Demanding the life of the idle rich (historically the only people who could indulge 'the arts'), at the expense of the working poor. And make no mistake, that's exactly what any 'artist' not born to great wealth is going to end up doing.

 

Everyone should be able to enjoy books and music. It should be possible to work and enjoy "theyartz".

 

We weren't talking about enjoying a good book at the end of the working day. We were talking about people who think it's reasonable to choose the Yartz as a 'career', when NOT independently wealthy. You know, a-grade a-holes.