Parts of Britain suffer coldest summer for nearly two decades

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  1. jackdog

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    what caused all the many changes in climate of the past ten K years Leffe?

    http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/paleo/ctl/clisci10k.html

    that being said I am all for banning strip mines and cleaning up the air and oceans, lets just drop the CAGW (Carbon based AGW) BS and concentrate on the real issues. CAGW is a scam, a good portion of the CAGW crowd has been proven to be liars and fanatical activists. Tons of holes being shot in the CAGW theory, too many to list here.

    Cleaning the air up is a good thing, but CO2 is a harmless plant food, but then you can't really tax most of the real causes of climate change now can you?

    Oh and all one has to do is drive into a city on a motorcycle on a cool summer night to know that mankind does have some effect. All that asphalt makes a really good heat sink and all those AC's running make for a buttload of heat being dissipated from the electrical energy. AGW is real , CAGW is BS
     
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    No - you didn't answer the question.

    WHat is this "movement" you speak of and when was it renamed "climate change". What was it called before that?

    Most school children could tell you that "climate change" and "global warming" are not actually the same thing. Put simply - global warming causes climate change.

    Both terms have been in common use for well over 20 years. The IPCC (Intergovernmental Panel for CLIMATE CHANGE) was formed in 1988 - and "global warming" is still frequently used in the most recent IPCC Assessment Report

    One term has not replaced the other. Only the truly ignorant think it has.
     
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    So you just want to clean up "some" polution? Carbon is indeed a necessary part of our world, but a natural ratio must be maintained.
     
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    So what is your problem?

    Are you claiming that the atmospheric concentration of CO2 is not increasing?
    Are you claiming that this increase is not due to the release of CO2 from burning fossil fuels?
    Are you claiming that CO2 is not a greenhouse gas?
    Are you claiming that greenhouse gasses don't absorb and re-radiate thermal energy back to the earth's surface?

    What is it? Do you have any rational explanation at all for this outburst of yours? Or are you just not particularly well educated and a bit confused?

    I would be happy to explain whatever it is you don't understand.
     
  5. Professor Peabody

    Professor Peabody Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    According to the program, I watched on PBS, Alaska's north shore was only about 400 miles from the north pole at that time. Plate tectonics have shifted that south to about 1200 miles. They found many varieties of both plant and meat eating animals, so what were all those plant eating dinosaurs eating on the north shore of Alaska only 400 miles from the north pole? Santa's Salad?

    It's pretty obvious the earth had Al Gore's fever back then. For there to be enough vegetation to support herds of plant eating Dinosaurs according to NOVA the temp was approximately in the 70's during summer as determined by the fossil remains of the plant life. With the north pole a whole 400 miles away, I doubt there were any ice caps. If Dino the Dinosaur was driving a car it would be more like the Flintstones mobile than a Hummer.

    Imperative people are terrified when they feel anything in their world is outside of their control. The money grubbers know that and are using them for saps, dangling climate change fears and the hope of gaining control in front of them, as long as they pay. It's like waving a Bourbon on the rocks under the nose of an ex-alcoholic. We can no more change the inevitable changes in earth, than we can make it rain on command. Hell, we can't even accurately predict what the weather will be like next month. The earth will warm and cool as it has done for the last 4 Billion years. Man as the Dinosaurs will have to move further North and South to escape the heat, just as the Dinosaurs did. They will likely become extinct as the Dinosaurs did too. They had a good run, ruling the earth between some 150 million and 70 million years ago. For all those who believe we can slow or stop the warming and cooling cycles of the earth, your getting taken in by snake oil salesmen.

     
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    Just like manure. Doesn't mean it can't be a pollutant
     
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    Oh! Dear! I used to think this sort of post was a failure of conceptualisation - an inability to differentiate between local and global but I now think that it is probably more a failure to understand the basic concept underpinning the concept of mean or average

    For those who seem to have difficulty with the concept please think on this - if you drop two 1 centimetre ice cubes into a 50 litre vat of boiling oil ng on a fire - will the average temperature of the vat of oil be much changed?
     
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    :clap::clap:snicker!:clap::clap:

    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to bugalugs again.
     
  9. jackdog

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    did you know that according to FDA regs that in allspice you can have up to 30 or more insect fragments per 10 grams or an average of 1 or more rodent hairs per 10 grams

    http://www.fda.gov/Food/GuidanceCom...on/GuidanceDocuments/Sanitation/ucm056174.htm

    so show me proof where .0000380 parts of Co2 has ever caused any harm to anything
     
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    show me proof where 30 or more insect fragments has ever caused any harm to anything
     

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