Paul Manafort, Ex-Chairman of Trump Campaign, and Associate Plead Not Guilty to Money Laundering

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  1. ocean515

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    Is that supposed to mean something counsellor? I am accustomed to hearing people use something called "figure of speech". I assume you are familiar with the concept.

    I have also grown accustomed to the left's media partners eliminating context when engaging in the deceitful way it creates click bait for the people who shouldn't be so gullible.
     
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    You guys have been playing chicken little for almost a year. The final answer when forced for specifics is always 'stay tuned!'.

    It's clear they're going after Manafort to squeeze him. And That's fine. But it shows how little they really have at this point.

    Stay tuned! :roll:
     
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    For business deals BEFORE he was Trump's campaign manager. What is it you do not understand that neither Trump nor the campaign are implicated in any in the indictment. They are for acts before and not involved in the campaign. Show me where in the indictment they are? My eyes and ears are WIDE OPEN for you to explain to me where they are implicated.
     
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    Manafort is dirty and Christ Trump <Rule 3> are up in arms. They are boycotting Walmart until trump is cleared.
     
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    And we are talking about Manafort and Gates here so if one of them went home and murdered their wife then Trump and the campaign are involved? Where in their indictment is Trump and the campaign implicated in a crime?
     
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    Trump on the hot seat and the the good old boys are upset.
     
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    And when he knows of millions going to the Russians through the Clinton's scheme to use Russian intelligence through a foreign national to undermine the election. Why wasn't the evidence they somehow turned up over private business deals years before not simply handed over to the DOJ and given to career investigators and prosecutors there and have a normal and if it warrants prosecution then prosecute.
     
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    Just let them vent. It's kind of funny in a really pathetic way.
     
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    The guy worked for the campaign for 5 months before he was fired by Trump.

    Criminals rarely announce they're criminals to an employer.

    Manaforts work with pro-Russia Ukraine ended in 2015 with the Podestas.

    I'm not sure how any of that equates to possible Trump involvement.
     
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    Are you kidding me? Trump knew who he hired. You act like he was out handling flyers for trump and was low level. The dude was the freaking campaign manager. You ever heard of getting people. Trump has dirt on his hands. No matter how much the cult spins it.
     
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    ??
    to what?
     
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    Obama "banned the box" anyway. Even if Manafort is convicted on any of these charges, he's clear to go back to work in DC.
     
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    How did Trump know he was laundering money?

    Manafort just put that on his resume did he?

    He worked there for FIVE months.

    Swing and a miss.

    I wonder what E Feasy thinks about it.
     
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    Maybe it's just another continuation of R's wasting taxpayers $$$$. They've done it before, with the other nothing burger a couple decades ago.
     
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    Round them up, head them out:

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    Yes “infowars” is a questionable source, but that “poisonous tree” doctrine could be a genuine problem for the Mueller team.
    Suppose Mueller’s investigation followed leads derived from transcripts of FISA recorded calls, which in turn revealed evidence that sustains the charges brought. If it is shown the FISA warrant was premised on the dossier prepared by Steele then Manafort could seek to exclude that evidence since the dossier was fraudulently obtained.

    The fact the FBI actually paid for at least some of the information in this dossier, could be enough to preclude their reference to it to obtain a FISA warrant. If they couldn’t obtain that warrant, they wouldn’t have found whatever leads they followed in the investigation and the evidence these produced would be inadmissible in court.

    All sorts of exceptions and technicalities apply, the Rules of Evidence are one of the most arcane aspects of the law and it is very complicated, but Manafort is a sophisticated attorney, Mueller may have a hard time with this case.
     
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    Here's the proper context.

    Trump said he could shoot someone in broad daylight and retain your support.
     
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    Well said and a good question.

    I think of Trumpbots as VERY similar to religious zealots...they are going on nothing but a 'leap of faith'. They have decided that Trump is America's savior and that whatever he does/says...it is the truth/best for America.
    So if Trump says something is fake news, these Trumpbots assume it MUST be fake news. And they spend little/no effort to corroborate it. Simple blind devotion.

    That is what creeps me out most about Trumpbots - their almost blind allegiance to everything he says and does. To me it is very Hitler-like.
    Obamabots had it to a point. But they were usually far more informed...even if their information was often from a biased source. And I did not sense such a blind devotion to EVERYTHING Obama said...just much of it.
    But Trumpbots seem to just immediately believe WHATEVER Trump says...without question.
    Obamabots were annoying/frustrating. Trumpbots are creepy.
     
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    That's probably because Hitler survived WWII, lived for a time in Columbia before moving to Argentina., according to secret Classified information.

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    If the Federal Government, despite all their spy agencies, CIA, FBI and all their spy agencies didn't know that Manafort was conducting illegal activities at the time Trump hired him, how was Trump supposed to know? And as soon as Trump was informed he might have some legal problems, he was removed from his position.

    Pretty pathetic reaching there by The Swamp!
     
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    You just described the anti trumpers perfectly. There were 5 threads today highlighting the conspiracy against the US charge. None bothered to do any research on that charge or notice how minor of a charge it is.
     
  21. ocean515

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    I'm quite familiar with the way the left's media partners went about deceiving a gullible segment of the public. No need to confirm it's success.
     
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    Yet again, I challenge you to quote someone, other than Trump, who made that statement.

    Or you can continue to deflect and hide for the insecurity that must come from being discussed that way by your god emperor.
     
  23. ocean515

    ocean515 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It baffles me that anyone could fail to recognize the evisceration that occurs to their credibility when they interject their statements with such irrational exclamations like "god emperor".
     
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    Deflection noted.
     
  25. ocean515

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    I don't think so, you keep engaging in it.

    I'm beginning to wonder why someone who matriculated to law school, and I assume achieved a Doctor of Jurisprudence, would continue to do so.

    With the "god emperor" thing, I'm beginning to think something doesn't add up.

    All good, but very interesting.
     

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