People deserve to choose what they eat...

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  1. Daggdag

    Daggdag Well-Known Member

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    This is one of the biggest talking points for the far right, and they bash anyone who calls for laws to be passed that ban any type of food and drink. Now, I actually agree with them. This is one of the few points where I am completely on the conservative side, and think that liberals need to (*)(*)(*)(*) down and shut the (*)(*)(*)(*) up. The government has no business dictating what people put into their own bodies. This is true of recreational drugs and of food/drink.

    Now, to the point of this thread. With this far right call for people to be allowed to choose what to put into their bodies (as long as it's not pot), it annoys me that so many far righters protect businesses who refuse to label genetically altered foods. This strips people of their right to choose what to put into their bodies by making sure they do not know what is in a food product.

    I say that all ingredients, additives, genetic modifications, and all other changes/additions to any food or beverage should be lebeled, along with any side effects/dangers of these things. Full disclosure on all things meant for human consumption.

    I also want this policy added to tabacco. I want every chemical added to cigarettes, such as arsenic, cyanide, etc... on the label. No more giving these companies a free pass to add known poisons to their products and not give any warning of their inclusion.
     
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    Yeah, it is pretty silly when liberals bash conservatives for opposing legalization of drugs, then turn around and applaud NYC for telling people how much soda pop they can have in their drink.
     
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    But it's just as silly when cons do the opposit, and condemn drug users and call for their arrest while (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)ing about the government regulating food and drink.

    My point is that cons protect companies that purposely make it impossible for people to make educated choices on what they eat and drink, and they are hypocrites because of it.
     
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    Why does the food and drink industry lobby so hard to avoid them publishing what the contents of their products actually are?

    This is not a flipant comment, it happens, the food industry spends MASSIVE amounts of lobby money on it.

    I think most people want to know what's in their food.
     
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    So I take it you support my call for full disclosure on all goods produced for human consumption?
     
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    I agree, magic brownies should be legal

    and the gov should not be able to require cigarette companies to put carpet glue in their cigarettes, it's just not healthy

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    I do not think a single democrat here supported that ridiculous bill passed in new york
     
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    100%. Yet large companies determine government policy... But the politicians don't eat these products.

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    100%. Yet large companies determine government policy... But the politicians don't eat these products.
     
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    Cigarette companies put enough poisons into their products that the addition of carpet glue does not even make a difference. They ADD arsenic, cyanide, acetone, benzene, and over 200 other known poisons to their products, and call them "Preservatives".
     
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    I agree, food should be labeled. Unfortunately, I don't think it would do much good, most people don't bother to read the labels.

    Not sure why most people don't give a crap what they put into their bodies, but that seems to be the case. Me, I like to know exactly what crap and food additives I'm putting into my body. :D Seriously, I try to eat fairly well, but I'm no health food nut. I wish I were.

    I always look at what's in people's carts while in line at the grocery store. I guess I am kind of a health food nut compared to most.
     
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    Soooo, if you're a carpet installer who smokes, you're getting a double dose? :omfg:
     
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    Most people do read them, but only one part....the part that says "100% natural ingredients". However, unlike "Organic", which is a legally regulated term, "Natural" can be freely used, even on products that are filled with unnatural ingredients.
     
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    labeling is a two way street. there's nothing to stop companies that make food w/o GMOs from labeling their products as such.
     
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    Gonna hafta disagree with that, as evidenced by my nosey cart viewing. ;)

    If you ask some health food nuts, the foods labeled "organic" in the USA, aren't really that organic. I don't necessarily agree with that stance, but there are many who do.

    I wish I could afford to buy only organically grown foods, but I can't. I do try to buy only organic produce for juicing.
     
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    Excellent point, and there are some who do.
     

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    There is a group of organic food enthusiasts trying to get prices lowered by starting up co-op farms to produce organic fruits and vegetables with charity, and government grants backing them, in Indiana. Basically, it would be a bunch of hippies growing fruits and vegetables in a compound and then selling them at wholesale prices out of farmers' markets. I try and buy all of my fruit and fresh vegetables out of these markets.
     
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    We actually don't care what you put in your body. Just make sure you don't visit our hospitals and drive up healthcare for the rest of us. And if you die of a premature heart attack make sure your widow and children don't get any survivors benefits.

    The problem with you guys is you don't want to take personal responsibility. You eat whatever you want and when it comes time to pay the hospital bill you want private insurance or the taxpayer to foot the bill.

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    No one is getting arrested for having a coke and a smile. But they are giving life sentences to people for marijuana. You really think these situations are equivalent?!
     
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    Apples and oranges.
     
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    I am not talking about just GMO foods. I am talking about all of the other things added to foods as well. Did you know that arsenic is the most commonly used preservative in fruit juice? No? That is because food companies do not have arsenic as an ingredient on their label, they simply have it lebeled as "preservatives". I do not like the idea of consuming a known poison without even having the chance to know that's it's in the food and choose not to consume it.
     
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    there's arsenic in your tap water too, but the only way to consume enough of it to require warning would be to stick a garden hose down your throat....then the arsenic isn't going to be what kills you. the same with 99% of what is added or naturally present in foods. you just can't consume enough to hurt you.
     
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    You see, this is the kind of misinformation spread in ignorance. No, arsenic is not being added to food as a "preservative". It finds it's way into juice because of it's use in agriculture. And yes, it is a problem. But that doesn't mean you should spread misinformation about how the arsenic gets into the juice.
     
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    Actually, the arsenic found in ground water is of the organic variety, far less harmful than the inorganic variety found in many fruit juices today. Levels which far exceed the federal safety limit of 10 ppb. This is without a doubt a problem which needs to be addressed. A problem which I don't trust the FDA to solve.

    Education is key. When public outcry is loud enough, manufacturers will usually do something about it. Do you think the makers of Silk soy products use non gmo beans in their products out of their concern for public health? No, they do it because it makes good business sense.
     
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    your skin will get pale long before you start to get sick. srsly! back when it was trendy to be pale, chicks would do shots of it.
     
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    Levels have been found as high as 24 ppb, this is not a good thing, especially for children. If you want to turn a blind eye to the problem, that's your business. ;)
     

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