People want to be their own gods. Is that good or evil?

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  1. Greatest I am

    Greatest I am Well-Known Member

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    I agree.

    I likely do not have to remind you that homophobes are morally compromised as they put sex above love, while knowing that Jesus was all about putting love over sex as well as everything else.

    Gays are more well adjusted than homophobes as they put love above sex.

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    I hate to correct language or spelling errors on words that do not really change what the poster wanted to say, but because you did, I will also take that freedom.

    The intelligentsia is using the term groupish or hivish for our tribal natures these days, given, I think, because or tribal living ended a long time ago for what looks more like hives.

    You are correct that it is not universal between tribes and hives, but better than 70% of them hold as their first moral tenet, some type of reciprocity law or rule.

    That means that they will try to get along and trade instead of fight.

    If we did not collectively do so, we would be going against our own natures that default to cooperation and we would likely have gone extinct.



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    I think this is God's plan- for us to equal or even surpass Him, as any decent parent wishes for their children. In the distant future, of course (we've a loooooong way to go). But certainly keeping the goal in mind is a prerequisite to achieving it.

    And I must add for the record- becoming our own god =\= becoming god over eachother.
     
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    Good question. I didn't think of these when making my post. In the case of minors, they would always be regarded as forced victims. With mentally handicapped, there are more factors to be considered, like age, severity of the handicap, etc. I would suspect even mature adults with mental handicaps could experience sexual desire, so to apply one neat sexual prohibition covering all who are mentally handicapped, is not workable & not in harmony with addressing the needs of the handicapped individual involved. I can't think of a "one rule covers all" that's workable here.
     
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    Pride/arrogance, turns everyone into a 'god'. Humility unites them with their Creator.






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    Take that you fools of misery,
    for we are gods of lofty see,
    with bloated heads so fat and wide
    From arrogance, and worldly pride - Jeannette


     
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    Yet another testament to the compatibility between cogitation and idiocy.
    Of course it is. That's why Godless countries are invariably despotic.
     
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    Atheism is true good. Worshipping yourself is not stupid just immoral and selfish
     
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    Gov't will of course try to become god over others. Govt attracts those who desire a power monopoly over others, and the thing monopolists despise most is competition.

    In the dynamic of the individual, this must'nt always be the case. We can seek to become equal with God (by becoming gods ourselves) without necessarily seeking to replace Him.

    The question is: by what measure will we know when we've succeeded? I suspect we won't know that until we have succeeded.
     
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    We become like God, when we unite with Him. But there is only one Creator.
     
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    How can limiting oneself only to something that you can understand be good?
     
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    Gov't is just people, and people outside gov't have been doing the same *******ned thing since Cain murdered Abel.
    The same is true of gov't.
    No we can't, because with that attitude we cannot tolerate His presence.
    When one succeeds once and for all in purging every last trace of God's influence from his or her life, that's the wages of the unforgivable sin.
     
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    Now, yes. But why do you think God imbued us with His creativity?
     
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    Why would seeking to become equal with God mean we would not be able to tolerate His presence?
     
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    Because the desire for equality with God is inspired by the devil, of course. Is that lesson from Genesis 3 really lost on you?
     
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    I presume you're referring to:


    4 And the serpent saith unto the woman, `Dying, ye do not die,

    5 for God doth know that in the day of your eating of it -- your eyes have been opened, and ye have been as God, knowing good and evil.'

    6 And the woman seeth that the tree [is] good for food, and that it [is] pleasant to the eyes, and the tree is desirable to make [one] wise, and she taketh of its fruit and eateth, and giveth also to her husband with her, and he doth eat;

    7 and the eyes of them both are opened, and they know that they [are] naked, and they sew fig-leaves, and make to themselves girdles.

    8 And they hear the sound of Jehovah God walking up and down in the garden at the breeze of the day, and the man and his wife hide themselves from the face of Jehovah God in the midst of the trees of the garden.

    9 And Jehovah God calleth unto the man, and saith to him, `Where [art] thou?'

    10 and he saith, `Thy sound I have heard in the garden, and I am afraid, for I am naked, and I hide myself.'

    So you're equating hiding ones nakedness with an intolerance of God. Do you hide your nakedness from your friends and peers because of intolerance? Would you prance around naked in front of your parents if only you could tolerate them?
     
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    Which of the thousands of gods is the current creator?
     
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    I don’t think that video represents a consensus of intellectual thinking.
     
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    Not so much over each other as beside each other.

    If any good god or good man cannot be a universalist, and try to love all of our neighbors equally, then he, she or it is not worthy of either title.

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    Your Yahweh has more pride, arrogance and other vile characteristics than any of us. He is the greatest sinner and you should not break the first commandment by putting some other mane above his for creating evil. You would be going against scriptures as well.

    Humility is a Christians way of not examining the vile and immoral moral tenets Yahweh has them living under.

    You fear questioning your god because you know he is a genocidal satanic god.

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    If you what to see just how wrong you are, just look at the World Peace Index and you will note that statistically, the less religion in a country, the less warlike it will be and it will be more peaceful and law abiding.

    Contrast that with the U.S. a war mongering country with the worst jail and abortion rates in the free world.

    You like do not want to face that truth. Let me know if you need a link to the truth I put above.

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    I agree. That is partly why I am a Gnostic Christian. Our ideology prevents idol worship, even of ourselves, as we are perpetual seekers.

    Even when we think our ideology is perfect, we are pushed to seek an even more perfect reality.

    The closing of seeking is why Christians today are trying to live by the morality of our ancients instead of modernizing along with the times. That is why they remain homophobic and misogynous and adore a satanic genocidal god.

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    Jesus replaced god as judge of all things when he took the judgement seat. We are to do the same if we are to be his true brethren as he asks us to be.

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    If you believe that then you are idol worshiping a genocidal and infanticidal satanic Yahweh.

    Are you sure you want to do that?

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    How is idol worshiping something you do not understand good?

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    Really?

    Why then do you sing that Adam's sin was a happy fault and necessary to god's plan?

    Why do you think you have to always follow god instead of walking beside him?

    Think demographically. If you are behind god, he cannot see you. If we all get beside him, just moving his head would have his light shining on all except for those following him.

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