Photo ID is Racist

With the exception of private sales every state requires photo ID to purchase firearms. Don't you think that's racist? The liberals are trying to disarm minorities and take away their 2nd amendment rights in my estimation.

 

If you're saying Photo ID is racist, that would make the people that support that position believing in a racist policy. Since it's conservatives that sterotypically believe in Photo ID, you're really saying that Conservatives are the racists. Unless of course this thread was just made to be sarcastic, which in that case was never meant to promote discussion, just inflame and discourage people from thinking.

 

I'm saying liberals are equally racist. Like Eric Holder, I see racial animus everywhere - it's not just conservatives. Historical materialism and cultural Marxism shows that photo ID is inherently racist. The conservatives are being racist for demanding ID to vote and the liberals are being racist by demanding ID for gun purchases. People say ID is demanded to ensure only those permitted can buy alcohol, only those permitted can vote and only those permitted may be firearms. But that is a just a lie. The real reason is racial animus like Eric Holder said. Racial animus is everywhere.

 

Your whole premise is flawed. Yes, the conservative backed ID voting thing is wrong, not racist, but wrong. Firearms are a different story altogether. It isn't a race thing. You need identification to buy alcohol, drive cars, enter strip clubs. For some reason guns, something that can kill, are the exception?

 

Might believe that, if it weren't for the fact that no where in the OP you mention conservatives.

 

It's racist demanding ID for alcohol. It disproportionately effects minorities. Same with driving. They're trying to stop minorities driving. Now when the government is trying to stop minorities from driving, working and voting you've really got to admit that's there's a great deal of racial animus behind that.

 

You say it is racist. Explain how proving your identity is racist now. Seriously, an ID is your proof of citizenship. It is racist to restrict illegals and minors from buying guns?

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This is the silliest stance I've heard all day

 

It's racist because it disproportionately effects minorities that's why. Why are there so many black people in jail? It's racial animus. You need to fess up and check your white privilege.

 

You sir, are a fool. Minorities in this case are minors and illegal citizens. We shouldn't sell people without citizenship guns, alcohol, ect. This has nothing to do with racism or white privilege(why do you think I'm white), but common sense.

 

False, there are no proportions in this scenario. You are either a citizen and can buy a gun, or you are underage/illegal and cannot.

This has nothing to do with identification laws. A black guy has an identification card just like a white guy. How is it racist?

No, it is you trying to connect the dots to a law you don't understand. What is your nationality?

 

Photo ID to buy alcohol effects not just minors but also minorities who are unable to get photo ID and therefore can't prove their age. Same thing with driving. If you want to deny that racial animus underlies this system then that's up to you. But I know that racial animus exists everywhere.

 

Kinda got to agree with Csareo on this. Crimes are committed by criminals. Criminals aren't any race, they're people. This really doesn't have to do with race.

 

Better yet, why is asking for identification racist?

 

To be honest, when it comes to this debate I find it easier not to bring up race. A better argument is why do we need Photo ID in the first place when we already have something that works just fine?

 

Listen carefully. Every United States citizen over the age of 18 has a photo ID. Whether you are black, white, asian, ect. If you are a citizen you can get your identification in a day at the State Department.

I just don't understand your stance. I'm sorry, but I haven't connected the dots. Your argument has looked like this.

[P1] Photo ID required for guns
[P2] More blacks in Prison
[C1] Photo ID'S are racist???

 

Something else that works just fine? I fully agree that we need ID laws for any item, substance, or action that can cause danger to one's self or another. It seems like a practicality. My only disagreement would be photo ID laws for voting, at least in current status. Mainly because immigrants can't change the system to better suit them.

 

You're getting mixed up. My central premise is as follows:

If something disproportionately effects a minority this means ipso facto racial animus underlies it

Therefore, the fact that more black people are in prison means that there is racial animus in law enforcement and the judiciary.

And the fact that photo ID laws disproportionately effect minorities is ipso facto proof that photo ID laws are racist.

 

This guy doesn't think so.

[video=youtube;duhUaS9JEKo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duhUaS9JEKo[/video]

 

The single biggest reason I support photo IDs for voting is streamlining. There are constant complaints about long wait times especially in urban areas for voting. All you have to to is stand and watch people vote for a few minutes. The people that have there drivers license or some other form of photo ID get through the process several times faster. Just watch some moron pull out several envelopes and then show them to the poll worker so that she can pick one of the eligible ones and then they have to find the address on it etc. It is a (*)(*)(*)(*)ing monumental waste of time.

There is literally no reason to oppose photo IDs for voting. The argument from people that oppose it amounts to black people are to stupid or lazy to get a photo ID. Unlike the racists that oppose photo IDs I have no reason to assume that any person black or white is any less capable of getting an ID than anyone else in this country.

 

The only minorities affected are illegal citizens and minors. You can't be racist towards minors. I don't understand your point. Are you saying that illegals and minors should be able to buy a gun?

What the hell does this have to do with photo identification?

How?! For gods sake, I feel like I'm talking to a brick. Minorities are citizens under 18 and people without US citizenship. Answer this one question. Do you think that illegal citizens and minors should be able to buy a gun?

 

I don't understand, why is proving your identity to vote racist but proving your identity to buy some beer is not racist?

It's as if you want blacks to be alcoholics or something.

 

You've found some step and fetch it Uncle Tom who's prepared to sell his people down the toilet 20 pieces of Koch brother silver. Whoopie.

 

I agree with you for the most part. The problem is that some illegal aliens live here for about 8 years while processing or on work visas, and can't vote. There should be a allowance for those who have been here for over two years, but fresh immigrants shouldn't be able to vote directly after crossing the border. I mean, the fee for an identification card is 10 to 40$, cheapest in border states. That is quite cheap. I do think people who can't afford the 25$ or 30$ fee should get an ID anyways, because a lot of the time people truly can't afford one. The same people who receive medicare.

 

How you suceed in dragging people into these troll threads is beyond me. But give credit where do

 

It isn't. That is his claim.

You should be refuting him. He believes photo ID's are racist, and I was disagreeing with him.