Pimps and Prostitutes are making it hard to pick up the kids from school

Pimpin ain' easy either

 

How does the presence of a prostitute make it hard to pick the kids up ? .. does she interfere somehow ?

Do we have many cases of prostitutes harrassing children in the area ?

and why does this prostitute necessitate concerns about human trafficking .. is this a trafficked girl ?

 

Legalize it, tax it. Move it to brothels away fr schools

 

No, it is not. Because it still remains illegal to manufacture, grow, or sell recreational pharmaceuticals, it's like a box of chok-oh-lets. You never know what you gonna get. You might ask for coke and get baking soda. You might ask for heroin and get a dose that is 4x stronger than what you usually take. And it has done NOTHING to put the cartels and gangs out of business, to the contrary, it's feeding them!

I'm a medical marijuana user, and I'm absolutely unapologetic about it. I also take opioids, legally, by the fistful. (OK, that's an exaggeration, but my point remains.) I personally know a lot of people who do a lot of different drugs, and to my knowledge, only one person has been harmed by them, and that was arguably an actual suicide.

Not even to mention the Constitution doesn't grant government the authority to regulate or ban 'drugs' (which is a word that covers a LOT of territory), just as they needed to get an Amendment to ban booze. And if we don't have freedom over our own bodies, even if we're doing stupid $hit with them, then are we really a free country? All this stuff was generally legal until the early 20th Century, and what we're seeing now is worse than in the 1800s when a 10-year-old could legally get heroin at the local opium den.

As I have previously mentioned, it is an inherent trait of our species to want to do mind-altering drugs. I'm sorry if you don't like that, but it's a fact. It's not just kids 'experimenting', it's not just the junkies sleeping on the sidewalk. Many of the walking, talking people who have jobs, a house, spouse, mortgage, and kids do a lot of drugs of all kinds, you just don't notice because... Well, I don't know why. It sounds weak to say 'Well, some people can just handle it, so that's that', but right now, that's all we got. Medical professionals won't touch the concept of 'functional addicts' with a 10-foot-pole, and the very name itself is insulting. Merely enjoying doing some coke at night or on the weekends doesn't necessarily imply that you are an 'addict', any more than a person who 'can't function in the morning without their coffee' makes then into caffeine addicts, a drug that is in the same family as cocaine.

The best example we have to look at is 19th Century America, where freedom really DID ring from sea to shining sea, drugs were legal, incomes weren't taxed, and people were left to their own devices. We need to return to that form of societal control, which is to say if you're not hurting anyone but yourself, it's your business.

 

This isn't the 1950s anymore, in today's world most kids have 2 working parents. At least among those who actually have 2 parents. When you factor in single mothers, or divorced mothers with kids, it probably is more common, but it's not like the old days where dad went off to work, while mom's job was to take care of the kids all days. My generation was probably the last where such an arrangement was anything close to normal, and even then it may have just felt that way because that's how it worked in my house. I'm a vintage 1969, if that is important. But in 2023, you'll see way more men (like my brother) dropping off their kids at school.

And yes, there are tens of millions of women who have sex with other women out there. I know, as I'm married to one of them, and we have enjoyed a lot of time with other like-minded people, where it's so common, a truly straight woman is as rare as finding a Rolex in your couch without ever having lost one. That said, they don't care. Man, woman, couple, 10 of each, as long as their money is green, and they're looking for something even close to normal (of course, what is normal?), they'll do whatever it takes to create happy, repeat business.

 

Yes, they have the authority to regulate such things

Only small percentage of people use mind-altering drugs.

Its a well known term.

An addict it someone who is addicted, not someone who uses once in a blue moon.

 

Because you said so? No, don't tell me... Show me. Chapter and verse in the Constitution where government has been granted said authority.

You are delusional. First, alcohol is most certainly a mind-altering drug, as is nicotine, caffeine, and a shitload of drugs our doctors give us 'permission' to take. Why we require their permission is a problem, though, unless you are not a fan of ACTUAL freedom, not the pansy ass version where you say, "I don't agree with what so-and-so says, but I'd fight to the death for their right to say it", and then try to make such a thing illegal.

Second, the fact you think so just furthers my point. They are all around you. At work, if you have kids, some of their parents, your neighbors, the cop who pulled you over last week, and the Judge that's going to adjudicate that case a few months from now, Mayors, Senators, and other pols. I know, because I live in that world, or I did before I got hurt. I knew an executive for a major computer company whose products my company also represented, but she was so high up the food chain, I couldn't have gotten a meeting with her regarding business if I tried (and I wasn't some entry level clerk), but we partied on the weekends together.

I could continue, but I'm not going to name names, for certain, and if you think I'm wrong, then you're just going to poo-poo what I'm saying, reject it entirely, and move on, all without questioning if there even the slightest possibility I might be right.

But it's like my little trip to the afterlife when I died in the ER (we think) when I became disabled. It's easy to just say, "ah, it was just your brain losing oxygen" or some other bullshit, but I know better, because I was there. It's not an uncommon thing, but it's not nearly as common as the drug user next door that you think is clean and sober. When it comes to THIS subject, I know because I WAS there, and not in a hypothetical afterlife that some just dismiss as a figment of my imagination, but right here in the 'real' world, that I've seen with my own 'real' eyes, over and over and over again.

Who decides where that line is drawn? Sure, it's easy to point at some homeless guy strung out half alive on some sidewalk somewhere and say, "See, this is what drugs do", when the truth is that is the end result of a whole string of things that occurred in that guy's life that conspired against him that landed him there. Broke, homeless, no marketable skills, nothing to do, no TV to watch, or X-Box to play with, and he got bored, and found living in a drug-filled mind 'world' preferable to sitting there, day after day, with a tin cup begging for donations that never came.

But what about the high school principal who was the youngest in his district to ever get that job, won award after award for his performance in and out of the classroom, and then had his life ruined because the wrong person saw him doing a drug that some legislators said he ain't supposed to, which ended up destroying an otherwise extremely successful career for no reason? Sure, you hear about those stories on the news, but before that knowledge became public, everyone loved him. His kids, their parents (on both sides of the political aisle), his bosses, yadda yadda. Gone. Because he just did what he'd been doing for decades without incident.

In your minds eye, ALL drug users are that strung out homeless guy sleeping on the sidewalk. In reality, it's everyone, including a lot of people you personally know that you would never, ever believe would do such a thing. You're talking to one right now, but I have to be sober at least until the markets close at 4. Day trading is the only way I can find to make any money these days, and by luck, instinct, or a skill I didn't know I have, I've been doing fairly well at it. Not yesterday, but most days at least. And my failure yesterday had nothing to do with the fact that I use hash on a regular basis.

In case you are unaware, hash is just 'compressed' marijuana that requires only a few grams to be vaporized, not smoked, to get you nice and high, and in my case, also pain free at least for an hour or two. A fact I didn't know until recently. I remember being taught about 'hash' in school, but never once did someone tell me it was just a different way of using weed. I thought it was some whole other drug that only junkies who slept on the sidewalk did. Well, wadda ya know?

 

You can read and use Google.

 

Well you packed a lot in there from my simple observation.

Regardless of the formal legality, or quality/toxicity of the drug in question, the fact remains that there are many areas in the US we can examine where the law is turning a blind eye to open hard drug use. As I said it is a valid statement to say that there is a de facto legalization of drug usage in these places.

I'm not sure I agree with the statement that it's some kind of inherent trait to want to do mind-altering drugs.

I'd agree with saying those who have taken them, for whatever reason, probably want to continue that behavior. That's their addictive nature at play. People who have never smoked a cigarette, for example, don't have that nicotine withdrawal like a smoker does that pushes you to seek out nicotine and justify it.

Knowing what nicotine does to you, I can only imagine what mind games hard drugs do to convince you to continue using them.

I've never really had an interest in drugs outside of caffeine, nicotine, and the occasional glass of rye. Some of it was based on ensuring I could pass lie detector tests for security clearances, but most of it was simply a risk-reward assessment. I don't even take Tylenol unless it's a really bad headache or something.

I suppose there are some people that can handle them better than others, in much the same way some people become alcoholics, but I suspect a lot of that is the monkey on a drug users back whispering justifications and assurances into their ear.

Reality for drug users, in my opinion, comes down to what happens when they try to stop using them. That's where the truth comes out.

 

I have no idea what you're talking about.

 

For the 15th time, - The federal Controlled Substances Act is grounded in federal commerce power

It tends to destroy your argument when you throw coffee and cocaine in the same basket. Go ahead, drink all the coffee you want. No one will stop you.

Yea, they are pounding capuchins all around me.

You said "functioning addict" is something medical pros will not touch with a 10 ft pole, but its actually a common term and used not only by medical pros, but everyone. Did you think you were in on some kind of secret?

Not sure what this has to do with anything.

I don't have an issue with medical pot, and if the State allows us to vote on recreational pot (Florida will NOT allow it on the ballot), then I would be ok with it if people voted to legalize it. I play golf with cops, and they say they don't do anything about it anymore when they smell pot (I smell it everywhere).

Lawmakers, and sometimes the citizens.

But there was a reason. He violated the law, and paid the price.

I never said that. I know quite a few pot smokers and functioning alcoholics (or borderline alcoholics).

Why on earth do you think my friends would hide it from me? They don't. Where are you getting all these weird ideas?

I lived in Europe, where hash is very common. So, it turned it was you who thought cannabis users were junkies who slept on the sidewalk. Why did you try to project it on me?

 

Feds closed websites that hookers used to offer services.

 

Agreed. After all, who are we to question the carreer goals of 15 year old girls? It's their choice.

 

well they'd have to be 18 for it to be considered legal

 

If you are old enough to make the choice to have your junk cut off, you should be old enough to be a sex worker.

 

or could even be online

 

disagree, being old enough to get a medical procedure does not make one old enough to be a sex worker, that should be 18 as min age

 

You're still 'telling me'. Show me. CHAPTER AND VERSE. Or, if you prefer, Article and Section. And Clause.

PS... The interstate commerce clause is singly the most abused part of the Constitution, and does not prohibit intrastate growing, manufacturing, transporting, selling or using anything until and unless it crosses a State line. If that's all you got, you got nothing.

PPS... Why was the 18th Amendment necessary? Case closed.

That's not ME, that's chemistry. And a fact. They're both stimulant alkaloids that come from different plants. Cocaine could accurately be described as more potent, but that's just an issue of dosage. Just like regular drugs, I take some where 0.05 mg is a LOT, and others that you gotta have 1000x that to have clinical effect.

I'm not sure what capuchins has to do with anything, but you are surrounded by them. Especially those alcohol junkies, can you imagine what kind of a scumbag would put THAT into their bodies??? We cannot have that, it has to be ended. Maybe if we gave people caught with it the death penalty?

Oh, wait. They already do that in N. Korea. I dunno about alcohol, but with other drugs. Yet, they still have drug dealers, and they still have drug users. People do not NOT use drugs because they're illegal.

You remind me of a little ditty I heard once.

Q: Why are drugs illegal?
A: Because they're bad.
Q: Why are they bad?
A: Because they're illegal, silly!!

Seems you didn't understand what I was trying to say, so I will clarify. They don't do studies on 'functioning addicts' as a part of the general population because if they did, almost all of us would be regarded as one, especially if alcohol was included. Medical professionals will treat anyone, no matter how they ended up in their office or ER. Also, how many people are honest even with their OWN docs about their recreational pharmaceutical usage, much less some survey.

Isn't that charitable of you! I have YOUR ACTUAL PERMISSION to put something into MY OWN body. Absolutely amazing. Mind-bogglingly so.

Now, to the serious part.

Who died and made you the god of what is and is not OK for me to insert into my OWN DAMN BODY????? (Or the Congress, State Leg, voters, or anybody else for that matter?)

The policies that you endorse KILL FAR MORE PEOPLE than legal drugs ever could, even if they were trying. Imagine a world where ACTUAL freedom exists! Or are you one of those American's who loves to sing, "My Country, 'tis of thee, sweet land of liberty" out of one side of your mouth while simultaneously saying it's appropriate for you to tell a total stranger what chemicals they are and are not allowed to use with that liberty out of the other?

Do you know what the single most performance enhancing drug is, that you won't find on any ban list anywhere?

Dihydrogen Monoxide. Look it up, if you need to. Not illegal, naturally, but hey... It's a chemical, mind altering (try a week without it if you don't believe me), addicting (see above), and according to your theory, could be banned if only 50%+ of the Congress to ban it. You can also overdose on it, which usually happens because...

Get this...

Someone had to take a drug test and wanted to water down their urine. There's no Narcan for it, either, once you cross that line, you could have 100 doctors on call and living in your home and you're still a dead man in an hour or three.

Sure they do. Not because they care about weed, but as a plausible 'probable cause' reason (nee excuse) to search the car to find whatever it is they really are hoping to find. I know cops, too, friend, and they've admitted that straight to my face. At least some of them did drugs, too. Within my line of sight. Not weed, that stays in your system too long, and a positive test will end your career (and pension), but other drugs are gone by the time the weekend is over.

I don't generally share my recreation pharma usage stats with my friends either. at least none that haven't seen me buck naked. Which, granted, is a ton of people. Still, it's mostly because people like you exist, and people like those drug-using losers who would never be friends with you actually are, and don't need the hassle. How do you think they would, anyway, chatting over the fence one day and just casually ask if you have some cocaine they could buy? You know some, and they may even live in the same home as you, who knows.

I didn't, or at least didn't intend to. It was a sideways glance at our 'just say no' education system that, much like today, just toed the company line. I distinctly remember a picture in a 6th grade textbook that allegedly showed 'hash', but it literally looked like used motor oil dripping out of a dish pad. I remember because that was the year I discovered erasable typing paper, and when I turned in a paper with absolutely no whiteout on it, my teacher was very impressed at zero typing errors. I didn't tell her...

 

Yeah, I do that. A lot. See above LOL...

Until the entire supply chain, from seed to end-user, is completely legal, controlled, and subject to quality control standards, not arresting users proves nothing. Most of them probably have no idea what they are taking, and because of that, many of them die. Not to mention those that get caught in the crossfire, or are involved in the firing happening because of the criminal element.

So was it god or aliens who invented alcohol, weed, coke, opioids of all flavors, etc., etc., or aliens? There is a reason so many American's are drinking as I type this, and it's not because of SOTU (which I am NOT watching) drinking game. And weeding, coking, etc., etc. We like it. And for people who didn't have anything to do after dinner except make babies, it's a good way to pass the otherwise boring time.

Generally speaking, people take up smoking when we're so young that death is this conceptual thing that doesn't apply to us. Until we wake up a week later only to realize we're 60, and can't breathe anymore. Plus, smokers tend to smoke all day, every day, and while some drug (including alcohol) users do as well, many of them just enjoy a sip (or toke) of whatever as they're vegging out staring at the boobtoob without boobs on it at night, or out with friends on the weekends.

But I've done a lot of drugs (including crack cocaine), some once, some many times none of which, aside from nicotine I have ever been addicted to. But I traded in smoking for vaping in 2012, and my docs don't care, even after I almost died. Well, did die, and came back. They consider me a non-smoker, and some will even let me vape in their office. Not at the hospital, but I told them they couldn't take my vape when they 'asked' for it, and that was that. I even had one idiot ICU MD tell me that vaping around the O2 machines was dangerous, and too this day I am not sure if she knew she was lying or not. (There is no combustion involved in vaping, therefore no risk of fire even in pure O2.)

I'm also not endorsing using drugs. Just pointing out the prohibition is NOT helping, indeed it's making things worse, just as it did in the 20s. The last version of the 20s. And there's always the idea that a truly free land doesn't prevent you from self-harm. Educate you? Sure, if they're intellectually honest. To wit, in the 80s the word from the 'authorities' was that use crack just ONCE and you'd be addicted for life. Well, I did it once (and just the once), and it did NOT addict me, which is when I realized that my own government lied to me. Probably on purpose. Offer help if you ask? Again, yes. But on YOUR dime, not mine.

Now that I think about it, that event, and seeing how much they took out of my very first post-college paycheck was what seeded my political leanings that persist to this day.

 

Reversable hormones or other drug therapies I'm fine with for minors. But not an addadicktome, or a penisectomy. Or any other medically unncecssary surgeries, including plastic surgery, fake boobs, lipo (unless the patient is so morbidly obese their life is in short term jeopardy if it isn't done), or any other permanent, body altering surgery. Once they hit 18, it's their body and their choice.

Well, unless it's booze or guns, then it's 21. But you can be in the military or law enforcement (and have a gun) at 18. And in most states, the age of consent is 16. Some of those are 'Romeo & Juliet' laws, though, so if you want to bang someone 17 and you're older than 20, check with local authorities first. Me, sure young girls look good, at least some of 'em. But they're so dumb, even when they ARE 'of age' that... Just no. And I'm a man-slut.

So, we need to decide one, and only one age that is legally considered adult. Before you cross that line, you belong to your parents or legal guardians. After, you do you boo. The only exception I would make would be for juvi criminals who did something so heinous (and intentional, of course) that they are not salvageable, even 50 years later.

 

Pimps and prostitutes at a school? Are you sure that this Catholic school is considered a public school?? Where I come from you can't do many activities in the same area as a school.

The system isn't going to solve this situation. The school isn't going to report the prostitutes because they're cowards. And the police aren't going to stop this because they are passing up the prostitutes and arresting transsexuals instead because of prejudice and bad makeup.

 

Your average stripper if facing 'mandatory' retirement younger than most NFL players. On the issue of actual 15-year-olds, I'm with you 100. But once they cross that magical line, it's not a bad gig. If you are smart with the money, and sock some away for when you age out (at what, 28 at best?), it could pay your way through an Ivy League Education, enable you to buy a house with no mortgage before age 25, and really set yourself up for life.

If I had been a young, attractive female with the guts to do such a thing, I would have in a heartbeat. Sure beats the route I took. Though I finally did learn my lesson about trying to keep up with the Jonses and actually purchased a home at 47? 46 maybe? Thereabouts. No, it's not a McMansion, but I had one of those once upon a time. The mortgage, while affordable at the time, was still an anchor around my neck (and income), and pretty much 3/4ths of the house got used maybe 4 times the entire time I owned it.

I emphasize 'purchased' because 'buying' a house with the banks money only helps the bank, to whom you are paying rent for the next 30-years, and a total that frequently comes to 3-4x the amount borrowed. Or more. And on top of that is the rent owed to the State, which can never be paid off, and always goes up, to the point that by the time you pay off that mortgage, your state rent (frequently referred to as 'property taxes', and mostly used to pay to educate kids that are not yours) remains. Forever.

Our State, which in addition to having no income taxes, also passed a law (by petition, I think, but I had left but not yet returned when it happened) that limited the increases to no more than 3% per year no matter what, and I heard a rumor they may cut that to 2% we have so much excess tax revenue. Hopefully, by the time I'm genuinely old that will help us from not getting taxed out of 'our' home.

Mortgages are, for better or worse, a necessary evil because most young people can't even come up with the 20% down payment that used to be an absolute deal breaker requirement, much less the whole thing. Stripping for a few years might be a good way to short track that. Those girls make BANK, even after paying the house for the 'privilege' of working there. No minimum wages, there, you pay to play. But, in most cases, it's worth it.

 

One more thing, that is probably the primary reason for the 'I smell weed' searches... Give this a watch...

 

as long as one is legally still a child until 21, we can raise the age of those things, otherwise it's 18

I also agree, hormone only until 18, unless it's to fix a real medical issue, like breast cancer, testicle cancer or such

 

Need to be spoon-fed......again?

Article 1, Section 8, Clause 3

Yes, cocaine is more potent than coffee. Heroin, another plant based delight, is also more potent than coffee.

You refer to coffee drinkers as addicts, so yes, I see people "using" coffee every day.

They do what there? Drinking is prectically a national pastime there and pot is legal. It would be like heaven for you.

Your words, not mine. I remember a little boy trying to pull that tick on me once.

Who told you they don't study it? Of course it would be meaningless to study coffee drinkers as "functioning addict", but "functioning addicts" like drinkers are well studied.

Sober up! No one said anything like that. I don't give a rats ass what you eat, inhale or shoot up your veins.

Again, no one here has even hinted its up to me.

Do you know what the single most performance enhancing drug is, that you won't find on any ban list anywhere?

Water? Sure, lets toss that in the same bucket with coffee, heroin and cocaine.

If they smell pot in your car, then obviously they will, and should, do something because you are driving impaired.

What I said went right over your head, didn't it. LOL.