Pimps and Prostitutes are making it hard to pick up the kids from school

Yeah I understand and agree with many of the points on both sides of the drug argument.

My point I guess is that outside of the legality and freedom arguments, the effects of hard drug usage can be devastating in any case.

After all, many illegal drug users became addicted via prescription medications, and then turn to illegal purchases. That's probably the main avenue, in fact.

The damage is real, no matter how they're acquired. I do agree that, compared to what we have now, enforcement of anti-drug laws creates a lot of additional problems.

It seems it's one of those things where the answer doesn't lie in trying to control possession/usage of drugs, but more on the cultural side convincing people not to experiment with things that could ruin their lives. It also requires acknowledging the fact that some drugs are unfairly maligned and that there is misinformation around some of them.

Of course, we all know that that will be difficult thanks to parts of the culture that glorify hard drugs as well as their highly addictive nature.

 

Maybe slightly more likely to be female as if it's single income, more likely to be the male. But usually both parents work and it depends on the work schedules who does drop off or pickup. Or who has custody that day... So one parent present, who may be the dad out of view of his ex-wife/wife/girlfriend/baby momma. So yeah, I can see why they are there.

 

I don't see the big deal in the kids witnessing this. Ignorance isn't virtue. Kidnapping would be a big deal - but I don't see evidence of that.

 

More mums than dads in my area. (of Oz)

 

Just for interest.
HAZARDS OF E-CIGARETTES IN CURRENT SMOKERS
In the meantime, what is the best advice to our patients receiving home oxygen therapy who would be tempted to vape instead of smoke? The answer begins with the elementary description of the typical e-cigarette. The basic components of most disposable or rechargeable e-cigarettes include a cartridge containing a liquid solution of propylene glycol (with or without nicotine), a battery and a heating element (16). This latter component reaches high temperature and aerosolizes the e-liquid to be inhaled. Consequently, it can conceivably ignite in the presence of oxygen. Although the human health effects of e-cigarettes have already been the subject of studies and at least one systematic review (13), we could not retrieve any case report of burn accident in e-cigarette smokers on home oxygen in a Medline search. However, a quick ‘Google’ search was sufficient to identify several reports of such accidents in the lay press (17,18).

Several other cases may have been encountered around the world and left unreported, including a 72-year-old patient with pulmonary fibrosis who was seen by one of the authors when brought to Maisonneuve-Rosemont Hospital in Montreal (Quebec) with facial burns that occurred after his nasal prongs caught on fire when he was vaping while receiving oxygen through his concentrator at a flow rate of 6 L/min. This man was discharged from hospital five days later. This incident was reported to Health Canada, the Canadian health regulation authority that has since released a warning of fire risk to oxygen therapy patients from e-cigarettes (19). Burn accidents in patients receiving oxygen therapy are, therefore, not only plausible, they have occurred. In addition, battery fire and explosion from a defect known as ‘thermal runaway’ have been described (16). It is, therefore, our position that patients receiving oxygen therapy should definitely not use e-cigarettes.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4390016/

 

That is also largely the fault of the war on drugs, as well, and I will explain why. You see, when I got out of the hospital, they did write me a script for pain meds, but it was a fraction of what I was taking in the hospital. I was in absolute agony, so naturally I asked them to put be back to what I had been taking before. They refused, either because they literally had to due to the law, or because they are spooked about getting in trouble even without a black-letter legal violation.

Then, I ended up back in the hospital again. Not for the pain in and of itself, but they did put me back to where I was. After I left the hospital, and went back to my pain doc, they ripped me a new butthole because the hospital was giving me more than they had authorized. To this day I'm not sure if any law was violated, but I had no reason to object while in the hospital because I was once again not in my right mind.

They put me back on the lower dose. I moved, got a new doc, and he also refused to increase my meds. I came within an inch of turning to some street drugs, and in fact, I did, but it was 'just' weed, but I didn't have my own 'weed guy', just friends who had one who would do me a solid and get some for me. It helped, and prevented me from seeking something stronger, until I finally got a weed card of my own, which is ridiculously expensive and has to be renewed every 7 months, at the same expense.

So, the misguided efforts of a room full of politicians who have NEVER walked a foot in my shoes, and who know nothing about medicine, drugs (except drugs bad, ban we must, ooga, ooga, thump, thump, off to jail junkies!!) to prevent drug 'abuse' came close with me, and crossed the line with many others in similar situations.

But if I had attempted to pick up some extra percs off the street, I have no way of knowing if they were genuine percs or not. I don't think the fentanyl in a disguised perc or xanax pill is anywhere near as widespread as they would have us believe, because if it was, we wouldn't be seeing hundreds or thousands of deaths, it would be hundreds of thousands or even millions. All this talk of, "There's enough fentanyl in this sandwich bag full of pills to kill every American" is just more drug warrior "Smoke crack once and you'll be addicted" bullshit, otherwise it would be the ONLY story on the news, every day. Every day, a lot of people do a lot of street drugs, and despite the guy who refused to believe he knew any, they are literally everywhere.

We've tried that. For well over a century. It hasn't worked, it isn't working and it will NEVER work, because as I said, people like getting high. Or drunk, stoned, buzzed, or whatever word you want to use. We like it. *I* like it. There may well be some folks out there who if they did the exact same things I have done might have developed a problem, but that's their problem. There are also stupid people out there, but they're not dumbing me down to compensate for them, and neither should we make one size fits all laws based on the lowest rung of the human drug dependance and abuse chain.

Nor is it any of our f-ing business! If I've said it once I've said it 1,000 times, liberty means the right to do with your own body whatever you want to, unless by doing so you harm others. And I'm talking about swallowing a bomb or something, not some negative side effects to family, friends, jobs, etc. Most of those are caused because 'drugs bad, drugs illegal, ooga, ooga, jail the junkies' rhetoric we've seen several times in this thread alone. "I found your drugs, husband, son, employee, I'm leaving you, kicking you out, or firing you", and so forth.

Drugs bad, ooga ooga, jail the junkies, pant, slobber, pant, slobber. Like a caveman bashing a woman over the head and dragging her home, which is probably an urban myth to begin with. Which is precisely what those who bang the drug warrior drums are based on, urban myths.

And many of the drug laws were in fact institutional racism. Those damn Orientals and their opium, or the black jazz musicians smoking the demon weed and raping white women. One guy even testified before Congress that he saw a black man smoke weed and literally turn into a bat!

The war on drugs is worse for society than true legalized drugs from seed to user would even come close to being. That's the reality that nobody is willing to admit, even if they secretly believe it but are afraid to say so.

 

Typical drug warrior bullshit. The only way an e-cig can ignite, well, anything is if it's been modified or is being used in an improper manner in one way or another. And any device that uses a lithium battery is subject to at least a hypothetical risk of an explosion and fire. Including the ones found in notebook computers, phones, tablets, bluetooth this or that, and really anything that uses a lithium rechargeable battery. Including EVs for that matter.

One incident across the entire planet is not any sort of justification for... anything at all. Sometimes, doo doo occurs. Just looking around where I'm sitting right now, and ignoring my vape pen, there are at least 6 things in arms reach of me that could have that problem. None of them have, and I expect they won't, but it will always be possible, at least until a better design or different metal can be used.

 

But, how would that make for a good thread on an anonymous chat forum?
Details, smeeshtails.

 

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Maybe it's not really about prostitutes?

With the Catholic history of priests and boys and all.

 

So going to a grade school is where prostitutes think they can make the most money?

Is this a private religious school or something?

 

So, they can't get work at the local nightclub section of town.
So the next best option is 7:00am and 3:00pm at local schools?

That's what you're suggesting is best?
Oh wait, you're suggesting school kids have so much money, that prostitutes think the kids are going to hire them?

 

I’m obviously terribly wrong. Mea culpa!

 

LOL

"Roll up a Fatty for o'l Puff Daddy .. Pimpin ain't easy" Classic Line from the Puffer.

 

What a raging pile .. making numerous nonsense comments .. can't figure out the difference between cocaine, heroin and coffee ?

"Heaven" - so .. essential liberty is not heaven for you >>?? ahh .. sorry . must be one of those extreme lefties who's idea of Heaven is the Borg like collective .. essential liberty reduced to near zero to protect the hive.

 

Most of the problem with the batteries is when people are using them with damaged insulators and just walking around with them in their pocket with their keys.

Not a real bright thing to do.

 

I guess my concern with the "legalization" of drugs is you just have governments replacing the cartels....at even more risk to liberty.

The people who are fond of using the "opiate of the masses" quotes actually want people addicted to drugs. Governments that can make a populace stupid, dependent on them for money, housing, safety, and addicted to drugs only they can provide are far more easily controlled and exploited.

If someone is addicted to hard core drugs I'm not sure they are free, quite frankly. The addiction is driving the car and making decisions people wouldn't make if they weren't addicted.

People who can't afford their addiction, legal or not, are going to turn to violence/crime to ensure their supply keeps flowing. You may have had the intelligence (and the money) to color inside the lines but is that the norm? I don't know.

I agree that passing laws to control for the lowest common denominator in society is not a good idea though. After all, about 10% of the population are sub 80 IQ......these people will never be able to take care of themselves or make good decisions.

I guess all I'm trying to say is that, as bad as the "war on drugs" is (for many, many reasons), I'm not convinced that legalization (actual or de-facto) is a panacea. Yet, I draw a blank on a third option.

Alcohol is a great example of how we just have to live with the effects of an abused drug.

Alcohol abuse is something we can point at and say that even though it's legalized, it's certainly not a victimless pursuit by it's addicts. A large percentage of crime is committed under the influence of alcohol, for example. Impaired driving is another.

I'm not so much disagreeing with you as I am opining on why people do stupid things I guess.

 

Cell phones were setting people's pants on fire for a while there and nobody seemed to care about those anecdotes much.

Putting a burning anything near a pure oxygen source is probably a bad idea in general, don't you think? Probably shouldn't put the burning candle up to your nose and sniff it either when you're wearing an O2 mask.

Like I just posted earlier, most of the cases of battery fires when it comes to vape devices is when people are carrying rechargeable batteries with damaged jackets around in their pockets.

They're not smart enough to understand that a key ring touching both sides of the battery at the same time might cause problems, particularly when the jacket is damaged.

 

Iwas thinkin more "anything goes when it comes to hoe$, because pimpin ain' easy" - big daddy.

 

Thought you said “typical warrior bullshit”?

 

Very different. One is in private and one is in public.

 

I dunno what you mean.

 

California has turned into a shithole state with shithole cities.

 

I thought you didn’t believe the post about possible fires started by e cigarettes in the vicinity of medical oxygen.

 

both are both public and private - taking a girl out for a date, to the mall to buy her stuff, that's public, both have sex in private

having sex with a rich man for money is no different, be it a long term arrangement or short term

 

I think you're thinking about @DentalFloss 's response.

But no, I don't believe it either, unless there was some kind of weird defect.

Do you know how a vape coil works? The coil is immersed in fluid contained in a glass tank. That's how it turns the liquid into a gas.

Kinda hard to start a fire when it's both behind glass and submersed in a fluid.