Plain Truths That Can't Be Mentioned

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  1. Jack Hays

    Jack Hays Well-Known Member Donor

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    This should be fun. There is a long list of plain truths which everyone - across all races, etc - would agree to in a barbershop, on a basketball court, or on a golf course...but which almost cannot be mentioned in "polite" discourse. Here are a few. I'll print the first one to get started:

    "While police brutality is Very Bad, something like the 90% majority of people shot by cops are violent repeat felons, usually struggling with the officer."

    Plain Truths Which Everyone Agrees--But Can't Be Mentioned

    Wilfred Reilly, Twitter
     
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    Melb_muser Well-Known Member Donor

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    This is an odd contribution to make to this thread, but anyhow all I can think to of to say is that I wish quality affordable food was available to the general population of the US. I think that would make a big difference. When crappy takeaway food is so cheap and good healthy food from the supermarket is so expensive, what hope is there?

    Now there's a conspiracy truther for you!!
     
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    Your wish has been granted.

    "A healthy diet doesn’t have to be expensive. There are plenty of affordable, nutrient-dense foods you can purchase without breaking the bank. In fact, some healthy foods are cheaper than processed junk foods. The 29 foods listed in this article are both cheap and healthy, making them a great addition to your diet."

    https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/29-cheap-healthy-foods
     
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    From the OP link:
    (6) Many/most poor neighborhoods will be "food deserts" until epidemic CRIME decreases. No one wants to build a shiny new store only to have it burnt down, and 'urban enterprise tracks the crime rate.'
     
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    The only instances of systemic racism I'm aware of are being maintained by those who whine and cry out the loudest about it.
     
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    And the other 10%? You know...the ones shot in the back while fleeing arrest?
     
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    Yes I saw that 1. Frankly I wouldn't set up a store there either! But according to my point you'd have to subsidise it. And have armored guards by the sounds of it. And the local inhabitants probably wouldn't be interested in healthy food anyhow.

    All I read from your post though is pull yourself up by your bootstraps. I imagine if armchair warriors actually went to these areas you would see pretty quickly that you're dealing with human beings whose brains have not developed properly. They're not going to get out of this by themselves.
     
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    Kind of funny, darn funny. A conservative accusing others of “not having a high IQ”.





     
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    Brilliant! This was based on my experience of living in West Virginia. You'd have a supermarket with some great foods in it ( but very expensive) and then opposite the cheap and nasty takeaways.

    I wonder if the type of demographic that we are aluding to could negotiate that article by themselves and the cooking involved, though.
     
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    Sorry, but there's no evidence for "10%" like that.
     
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    I spent many years in places where nutrition was poor. You might be surprised by how resourceful and creative our fellow human beings are.
     
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    But you acknowledge that occasionally occurs, right? And, saying "there is no evidence" implies statistical data. Link?
     
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    I'm not the one who made the claim about ". . . the other 10%? You know...the ones shot in the back while fleeing arrest?" I said there's no evidence for that. The burden of providing evidence is yours.
     
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    I asked if you acknowledged some of the 10%. Once you claimed a number - i.e. 90% resisting arrest - means that someone has done a study, looked at each case and calculated a specific number. I just asked for a link to the study.
     
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    I suspect that "shot in the back while fleeing" percentage is too small to measure.
     
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    Here comes a curveball.........

    After Michael Brown, an unarmed Black man, was killed in 2014 by police in Ferguson, Mo., a Post investigation found that the FBI undercounted fatal police shootings by more than half. This is because reporting by police departments is voluntary and many departments fail to do so.

    The Post’s data relies primarily on news accounts, social media postings and police reports. Analysis of more than five years of data reveals that the number and circumstances of fatal shootings and the overall demographics of the victims have remained relatively constant.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/investigations/police-shootings-database/

    How many police shootings a year? No one knows

    Criminal justice experts note that, while the federal government and national research groups keep scads of data and statistics— on topics ranging from how many people were victims of unprovoked shark attacks (53 in 2013) to the number of hogs and pigs living on farms in the U.S. (upwards of 64,000,000 according to 2010 numbers) — there is no reliable national data on how many people are shot by police officers each year.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ow-many-police-shootings-a-year-no-one-knows/
     
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    Michael Brown assaulted a police officer, who killed Brown while defending himself.
     
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    OK...but certainly the 90% isn't. So...what's the study?
     
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    Don't know. Don't care. As I said, this should be fun. I'm willing to rest on simple assumption.
     
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    If they aren't guilty, why are they fleeing? Is that some mild form of "peaceful protest"?
    You can bet they have a reason.
     
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    Absolutely, when there is love and support you can literally live off weeds.

    I'm sure a man from your generation has some amazing stories to tell. I'm betting it wasn't all bed of roses for you either.

    Relating to weeds, I'll share one anecdote. when I was a student and wanted to save money I would actually eat some weeds from my garden. Edible tasty ones that I planted of course (under dad's direction) :aww:
     
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    As in "fear."
     
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    My reference was mainly to my time in Africa. My own background was indeed not a bed of roses, but I can't claim more than the usual challenges when starting up the ladder.
     
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    I dont know, but at some point the individual has to be responsible for their own ability to prepare their own food.
     
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    The point of my post was to call in to question the numbers Wilfred based his comment on.

    As an aside, would it have been justified for Capital police officers to kill members of the mob in order to defend themselves while being attacked?
     
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