Poll about JFK Assassination: Who Killed JFK?

Discussion in 'JFK' started by usda_select, Mar 21, 2017.

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Who Killed JFK?

Poll closed Sep 21, 2017.
  1. Lee Harvey Oswald; acting alone

    37.0%
  2. Lee Harvey Oswald was the trigger man; but as part of a larger conspriacy

    40.7%
  3. Lee Harvey Oswald was one of multiple triggermen.

    22.2%
  1. usda_select

    usda_select Active Member Past Donor

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    Hoping to get a sense where the board is on the following question?

    Who killed JFK.

    I think LHO acted alone but as a part of a larger conspiracy
     
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    How about another choice? Lee Oswald was not a trigger man.

    And just how does one act alone but as part of a larger conspiracy?
    Aren't you mixing mutually contradictory concepts all together possibly because you have no idea what you are dealing with?
     
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    usda_select Active Member Past Donor

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    The act of shooting a president was Oswald. The forces that placed him there were more than just a bloodthirsty desire of his to shoot the President.
    Oswald is quite guilty of killing the President. That is obvious.
     
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    Great theory with no evidence to back it. A court of law would acquit
    him every time.

    Nobody can place Oswald in the shooter's nest. Nobody saw him shoot. No trace of gunpowder on him. The supposed murder weapon wasn't on the sixth floor when sheriff's deputies and FBI people got there. Do you believe everything the Warren Commission tells you?
    How do you like the magic bullet?
     
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    usda_select Active Member Past Donor

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    Just in the building.
    Just all of the stuff he did after.
    Just his purchasing the murder weapon they found in the TSBD (and never by the way found at his residence)

    The evidence is overwhelming that Oswald is guilty. I don't think he is the only one.
     
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    Uncle Ferd says...

    ... the same one ...

    ... who shot J.R.
     
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    usda_select Active Member Past Donor

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    Strange how everyone has an opinion but nobody is willing to clearly allow themselves to be put into one camp or the other. Either you think Oswald shot JFK or you don't. And if you think Oswald was the assassin you either think he was just a lone nut or had help. Not that hard folks.
     
  9. Your Best Friend

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    The second floor is not the sixth floor no matter how one spins it.
    Yes. Just what exactly did Lee Harvey Oswald do after he left the Dallas school book depository? It may not be what you've been led to believe. http://22november1963.org.uk/jim-garrison-officer-j-d-tippit

    And why should we believe the Warren Commission about what Oswald did?

    The Warren Commission: The same people that invented the magic bullet?
    The people, on whose behalf, the president's skull was patched up and altered after leaving Parkland Hospital and before they got to
    Bethesda and it's sham autopsy?

    The same people who destroyed and altered evidence (like the president's clothing and his limousine)? The people who "lost" his brain? The people who manufactured the famous fake photograph of Oswald released on the front cover of Life magazine to try to hopelessly prejudice the case against the patsy?
    Why should we believe the commission who conducted a campaign to hide and obscure the trail that leads from Oswald directly to our military intelligence apparatus?

    If anyone believes and accepts any part of the Warren Commission narrative (including Oswald's actions and whereabouts immediately after the assassination) then they are accepting all the lies and inventions that go along with it and completely surrendering their own
    ability to think independently and critically about what they, the Warren Commission, offered as "evidence".

    You can't accept blatant lies like the magic bullet and the one shooter story yet also accept the rest of the story as truth....it just isn't possible logically and intellectually.


    Someone purchased that weapon in his name (his cover name, that is). http://harveyandlee.net/Guns/Guns.html
    There is no evidence it was actually Oswald himself and there is extremely good evidence that it was not!
    As said before, in a court of law a good lawyer would have torn a thousand holes in the Warren Commission narrative. This is just another hole.

    When one uncritically accepts
    the Warren Commission version of the truth, but believe it's most important conclusion and the essence of it's narrative (Lee Oswald as the lone assassin) is wrong, then one sets up a weird disconnect and dichotomy in one's own mind that can never be resolved, unless
    one refuses to actually look at the whole truth...not just what the Warren Commission says.
    I'm afraid that's where you are at.
     
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    Pamela Geller?
     
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    Wrong the evidence is overwhelming that he did it and he had no prayer in any court.
     
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    HE was in fact placed on the sixth floor by physical evidence and witnesses which you can deny but not refute.

    The Warren Commission did not invent the magic bullet. Conspiracy theorists invented it and it is a lie by them. The WC did not use the words or the description you refer to whatsoever.

    There is no evidence of them altering or destroying evidence it is merely a claim you make to try and save face.

    There is no trail from OSwald to military intelligence and never was,. You have only made this claim without evidence.

    There is ABSOLUTE evidence that OSwald purchased his gun and not one shred of evidence otherwise even your link is a MASSIVE failure in terms of evidence.

    Name one lie by the warren commission.
     
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    Name the witnesses that saw Lee Oswald up in the sixth floor of the school book depository during the time the Kennedy motorcade was approaching. I've never seen such a list.
    Neither has anyone else.
     
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    Wrong many people have.

    The people who do honest objective and unbiased research have clearly noted the names of witnesses . Those like you however who ignore one side and only look at claims from conspiracy theorists make idiotic claims such as no one has seen it.

    This is what happens when one does as you d and never bothers to do proper research, Watching videos about conspiracy theory is not research. Failing to read the other side of thew story is not research and this is what you do.

    Bonnie Ray Williams, Charles Givens and Danny Arce were all employees of the TSBD who saw and in the case of Charlie Givens even spoke to OSwald on the SIXTH floor before the shooting. When they left to watch the motorcade elsewhere he remained.

    In addition his rifle , which was the only rifle recovered at the scene, was found there with his prints on it. Expended shell casings were found with his print on it. The bag he used to smuggle the rifle into the building was found there.

    Physical evidence supporting eyewitness testimony and you have nothing whatsoever to challenge it.

    Now since I clearly answered you answer me and tell me one specific lie from he WC and include a specific quote from the WC and evidence it is a lie
     
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    I said name them!

    Name those people.

    For how long? Who saw him there, in an area in which he clearly worked in before, just prior to the shooting?
    I can give you the names of employees that saw Oswald on the second floor just seconds after the shooting and other bits of evidence that
    smash the Warren Commission narrative to pieces.http://www.wnd.com/2013/10/girl-on-the-stairs-refutes-p-c-jfk-narrative/
    But of course you won't listen to anything that moves you out of Wackville.

    You are lying because a Mauser 7.65 rifle was found on the sixth floor and I posted the link before.https://jfk007.com/wowzer-a-mauser/
    There! I did it again.
    Deputy sheriff Roger Craig and deputy Eugene Boone signed affidavits swearing to seeing and identifying the Mauser rifle and the Warren Commission could never make them testify otherwise (though it would have loved to have had them change their story),

    What a joke your so called argument is.
    Maybe that's why the vast majority of Americans don't buy the Kool Aid you bathe in.
     
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    I named them boy and proved you wrong.

    No mauser was found it was a simple mis identification proving you wrong.

    Now since I clearly answered you stop running away and answer my question.

    Name one specific lie with a citation.

    Common boy you can at least pretend to try since the facts have crushed your faith based belief which is all you have
     
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    Nope!

    Not according to law enforcement
    officials there at the scene. You are just full of crap and telling blatant lies!

    You have a very low reputation on these boards pulling crap like this but I guess everyone is wrong but you.
     
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    Yep I totally pwned you giving you what you asked for and you are now running and refusing to even try and reciprocate.

    Reputation is irrelevant on any board or on the internet and in fact I am stating facts proving you wrong. Yes according to law enforcement only the carcano was found

    Many people have crushed you and made you look foolish so stop running and name a specific lie
     
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    Common troll blather.

    Reputation is only unimportant to those that have no credibility with anyone.
    You lie about the Mauser because I just got through providing the name of two officers who swear to the fact that a Mauser was found on the sixth floor when authorities first got there. Do you really think I won't notice your ****ing lies?

    How sad are you?
     
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    They did not swear to any such fact little one.

    It was massive interpretation only They admitted that there was a simply mi identification of the rifle which is not abnormal.

    You have provided no evidence to the contrary .

    Now I have answered you do the same in return and provide one specific lie or one piece of evidence of a lie from the WC
     
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    Frazier saw Oswald bring the rifle to work.
    Oswald said they were curtain rods
    Curtain rods were never found in the TSBD
    What was found was the murder weapon.
    The one that Oswald brought into the building.
     
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    Given that he also believes the 9/11 Commission Report is accurate, the answer is yes.
     
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    You could convince more people (in your case "more" people would be 1 person) if you would quote major inaccuracies in either report. That you can't tells quite a tale.
     
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    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...mission-scam-exposed-in-all-its-glory.495859/

    Already done in much detail (as to the 9/11 Commission Report - I'm not here to tear the Warren Commission Report apart, few believe any of that propaganda rag anyway). I don't need to try to convince anyone of anything, the facts speak for themselves. Millions already knew well before I started the thread, including the 9/11 family members. That fact is also posted.

    Just because you're in denial (or whatever floats your boat) doesn't mean others are. Your statement only tells a tale about you.
     
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    You are in fact trying to convince people or you would not be desperately trying to explain without evidence.

    The thread you linked to offers no evidence, no specifics and only blanket tired and cliched accusations about the report.

    Having few people believe it is meaningless and irrelevant as consensus does not determine truth or accuracy.

    The facts DO NOT speak in support of your claims about either the warren commission or the 911 commission report. Much like bobo and best friend and other idiots you are making up baseless assertions and never provide any evidence of any kind.

    It is this simple: if these reports were cover ups or shams or frauds you should easily be able to quote one part which is a proven lie or falsehood but you cannot and are running from doing so.

    This is because like your best friend, bobby and many others you have a belief rooted in faith and only cherry pick claims for others which agree with you and have never bothered to do proper research
     

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