Popular TikTokker charged with manslaughter after accidentally shooting friend

Popular TikTokker charged with manslaughter after accidentally shooting friend

A TikTokker with 1.6 million followers shot and killed her friend in a horrific accident, police say.

According to a court filing by the state of Texas, the shooting happened on 17 January. Mary Anne Oliver-Snow, who goes by “yandere.freak” on TikTok, was drinking with some friends at her home in Houston when she allegedly brought out a gun that she said her ex-boyfriend had left behind, which she believed was unloaded.

At that point, according to the court filing, Ms Oliver-Snow “did then and there unlawfully, recklessly cause the death of Helen Rose Hastings by pointing a handgun at the complainant and pulling the trigger”.

... https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/crime/tiktok-oliver-snow-shot-friend-b1930913.html​

Another case of someone who clearly had no business having a gun (she was clearly lacking in gun safety training, not to mention the requisite basic sense) having one and causing the death of someone, in this case accidentally.

The same people who obsess over fetuses pay no attention to the daily death count from gun accidents and crimes. These events tragically cut short the lives of people of all ages every single day, but somehow certain people just don't care about that.

 

What law would have prevented this stupidity?

 

Unfortunately, we don't have all the details about the gun, so we are left to speculate. But as for laws and based upon what we've read, I would say that leaving a gun behind in someone else's house shows recklessness and irresponsibility. If you have a permit for your gun, it is your responsibility to keep it in a safe place. Clearly, his girlfriend's house was not a safe place.

 

Not being a vapid, brain dead TikTokker in the first place would have prevented this...

 

You can't fix stupid but access to guns can be restricted.

 

I don't think you're accurate here. Most of the gun enthusiasts you come across are very careful with fire arms. That's why I accidental shooting that's makeup about 90 a year.

I don't know why you pretend to give a rat's ass about people dying. You're focusing on the microscopic number of people that died in gun accidents and ignoring the 35,000 people that die in traffic accidents.

Quit trying to mask this as though it's about caring about people. If you really did care about people you would be advocating for better traffic laws and enforcement.

This is just partisan trash and I'm glad to see this kind of rhetoric dying is more and more people own guns and realize what bologna it is.

 

Why would you accidental death involving guns is so extraordinarily uncommon. And murderers probably will still have them.

 

Such as yourself, who needs death to promote your anti-gun propaganda.

 

The stupidity nothing you need carefulness to protect against stupidity not laws.

 

It's hip-hop culture. They should put a stop to it like they did with pro-Trump propaganda.

 

Fortunately we do have the necessary information to understand that this was due to negligence.

There are three rules to follow with handling guns and if you follow all three of these rules nobody ever gets accidentally shot. You don't need training you don't need a class you don't need government approved anything you just need to use your brain for more than just keeping your ears from smashing together.

 

But he's wrong though it doesn't happen every single day there's just not enough deaths annually due to gun accidents for it to happen every single day.

 

That's most likely BS.

1. A loaded weapon feels different than an unloaded one.
2. Nobody assumes a weapon is unloaded. 99/99999% always check.
3. Responsible people know that you NEVER, EVER, EVER, EVER, EVER, EVER AND EVER point a gun at a living being. NEVER.
4. She probably hated the "friend" and shot her (and this lie reduces any criminal charges (from homicide to manslaughter)).
5. She's stupid and I hope she slips up during her deposition about what really happened.

This was NOT an accident. Either the friend was messing around with her guy or she thought she was or something else transpired between them.

Nobody picks up a weapon that is NOT theirs, carries it in their purse, drinks, takes it out, points it at somebody else and pulls the trigger. Nothing in that scenario makes sense. She's lying.

 

Hell of a way to get rid of someone, murdering them with a gun and claiming it was an accident. That doesn't make sense to me, I'm afraid. I'd expect a murder to be done a bit less publicly at least.

 

Why doesn't that make sense? The dead body is already there. She just has to finagle a way to get in the least amount of trouble as possible.

Many years ago a guy killed somebody (I forgot the details) and said it was an accident. His attorney told him to play the Crazy Card so when the told him to stand, he unbuckled his belt and dropped his pants and underwear to his ankles. The judge rolled her eyes and said "You're sane, Mr. X. You will be going to prison." LOL

 

There were witnesses. Who kills a friend with other friends around? Who play-acts being careless and stupid with a gun among others who know them to commit a murder? And what goofy Tik-Tok girl would concoct such a plan, let alone try it?

Never underestimate stupidity. People do some amazingly stupid things and this, dumb as it was, wasn't necessarily the dumbest.

 

There are laws about alcohol and handling firearms, sadly...we can't pass laws about mandating common sense or the existence of the Democrat party might be in jeopardy.

 

You do know you dont need a permit to own most guns, just concealed carry in many states, right?

 

And already IS.

 

Doesn't matter. Do you how many times people lie for one another? Every day. Even more lie to the police. We are trained to assume everybody is lying because people lie to cops constantly.

I was in a car accident in college when a woman ran a red light. I had a passenger (my cousin) and she was alone. I called 911 (car had a phone in it before everybody had cell phones). She walked back to wherever she had just left and came back with five people who told the cops they were in her car and witnessed it. My passenger got thrown on the ground with a foot on his neck and I shoved against my mother's car and taken to the station. The cop realized he screwed up as soon as he asked for my ID (my father and uncle were both very well respected Chicago police officers and just about EVERYBODY knew their names). Anyway, they didn't put me in a cell and the cop actually came up to me and apologized for what he did to me and my passenger (I was 21, he was only 16 or 17 but he's very big (football player) so he's intimidating just on sight.

I was beaten up by cops several times during my messy divorce (my ex literally called the cops on me about every 4-5 weeks for SEVEN YEARS). I've never resisted or didn't comply. Still got beat up. That's one reason I'm having health problems. One of those attacks happened within two days of my having a major surgery and my body wasn't healed yet. I'll have the problem for the rest of my life. And, I can tell you that 100% of the calls that were made to the cops were for fabricated reasons. Not ONE of them was legit. Ex and friends backed up each others' stories and guess who the cops deemed in the wrong? Yet, I've never been arrested or even questioned in any kind of crime. I was investigated by Child Protective services SIX times (all cleared, all fabricated reasons).

So, if *I* KNOW that I haven't done anything wrong and got beat up, taken to the police station, been investigated for stuff that never happened...all because the other side had more fake witnesses (and that's just my personal life, I've seen it as a cop all the time).

Durandal, I have a question for you. Have you ever had a friend over to your place? Just for a visit?

Has your friend mistakenly left anything at your place (ie. hat, gloves, cigarettes, etc.)? Anything?

Think on that a minute (forget about this situation and just think about yourself, your visitors over the years).

Now, ask yourself. What did you do with their belongings left at your place?

I'm not a mental health professional but you sound sane in our conversations here so I'm going to assume that you do what sane people do with other people's property. We either return the item(s), hold them until they come back or trash them.

Can you give me any sane reason that you would wear your buddy's hat and gloves and smoke his cigarettes?

Return.
Hold.
Trash.

Spoiler alert: You cant' because there are no other sane responses in that situation.

Read your question aloud to yourself.

Read it again.

What did you come up with?

If I was going to commit a crime that would possibly lead to my imprisonment for life or even the death penalty, that is EXACTLY how I would do it. You have built in accessories who also play as witnesses. If she had confronted this person alone (about whatever nonsense lead to this action) she would have to *convince* their other friends it was an accident. Pull the weapon out, play with it, point it and shoot and everybody is there to attest to the fact that it was accidental.

Think about a better plan if you are intent on killing somebody? There isn't one unless you kill all the witnesses and get plastic surgery and remove your fingerprints from everything in the vicinity two minutes later and have a plane ticket and bag packed for any country that doesn't have extradition agreements with the US.

Have you ever heard the concept about "open marriages"? Basically, it means that one's spouse is aware and agrees they can have sexual relationships with people outside their marriage as long as they don't bring any diseases, pregnancies or other unwanted stuff back home.

Yet, despite the fact there are people out there willing to do this, MOST cheaters will tell you that the "secrecy" of their indiscretion is the turn-on. They like the idea of doing something behind their partners' back. That's the thrill.

Same concept here. One think "What would it feel like to kill somebody?" or "I really hate X for whatever. I want her/him dead but I don't want to go to prison." or similar types of things. The thrill is *getting away with murder* and the best way to do that is to set it up beforehand.

I agree. People are stupid. This woman isn't. She planned this to go down exactly how it went down.

 

Very sad. There is no such thing as an unloaded firearm. Ignorance is dangerous.

 

Another example of alcohol and gunpowder, with more than a touch of innate stupidity, not mixing.

 

I'm uncertain this was an accident. In japanese manga/anime as "yandere" girl is a girl who is so obsessively attracted to you they attempt to murder/torture you. Its a common trope.
Her chat handle might as well be psycho sexual murderer girl.

 

How desperate must the ex have been to get away from her that he left a firearm there?

 

a gun owner leaves a loaded gun there and this accident happened