Poroshenko: Nearly all 1500 monuments to Lenin demolished in Ukraine.

Don't know what to think when I see people trying to defend 1500 monuments to the mass murderer. 1500 monuments! So sick...If we take average height of the monument as 6 meters and put all of them on top of each other this tower would be 9 kilometers high!

 

lol, tovarische, Stalin created the famine in Ukraine. You should educate yourself. Only in Russia do people think like you. The rest of the world knows the truth. Its far too late for that bullshit you posted. You know this.

 

The mass murderer is who? You say - Lenin is a mass murderer? Can you show the facts?

 

On the contrary, all people are capable of atrocities. We all carry the same vicious DNA. Every one of us. Individually we express it differently, so individually people are more or less capable of behaving in such ways. But in any population, anywhere on earth, you will find such people.

 

Are these your arguments?

 

to be fair I laughed at your feeble propaganda, too

 

Yes. There there's in any society. For example, Clinton, Obama or Bush. But these are isolated cases. Ukrainians and Balts are crazy 90% of the population. I do not know for the Balts, but maybe Ukrainians are so because they live in a region with iodine deficiency. And accordingly, the number of mentally retarded and aggressive in this region is overwhelming.
In addition, there are people physiologically incapable of inflicting harm on another. This is called "civilization".
For example during the Second World War the Germans wanted to shoot the Serbs. But was a German, his name was Josef Schultz, he refused to comply with this order. His commander told him - or you will shoot, or stand next to the Serbs. And Joseph Schultz became near c the Serbs and was shot. He was buried with them in one grave.
And another example. During the Second World War, the Serbs saved a small Jewish girl from the Nazis. They hid it, fed it, then helped to move to the United States. Later this Jewish girl grew up and became the US Secretary of State. And she is did everything so that America bombed Serbia. This Jewish girl named Madeleine Albright..

 

Agreed - The problem is that the Fascists want to replace the Lenin monuments with "Adolf" .

 

But the real arguments will be?

 

such nonsense. you have no real arguments. until you do I'll continue to laugh at you

 

Dangerous evolutionary baggage, Carl Sagan called it. It doesn't matter whether someone is a Balt or a Slav or the German or what have you, we are all perfectly capable of hatred of others and committing atrocities against them, especially in groups. Groups of people can be unbelievably cruel. Individually, it's less likely and more dependent on the personality of the individual, but when people get together and organize, anything is possible. One reason is that it's a lot harder to stop a violent, hateful group than it is to stop such an individual. Such a group will have greater cohesion and be more brazen than those who would resist. It gets worse when you add politics into the mix, because then the hateful group has a form of perceived legitimacy and authority behind it.

 

What are you arguing with? Lenin and other representatives of the Soviet regime themselves used terms like Dictatorship of the proletariat and Red Terror to describe what they were doing.

 

I agree that all people can be cruel. But some people are forced to cruel. Others are cruel because they like it. This is the same philosophical and civilizational view as betrayal or self-sacrifice, love or hatred. In my previous comments, I gave you two examples from one time and one circumstance. One went to his death because he could not cause harm to others. And the other betrayed her rescuers and did everything to kill those who saved her from imminent death.

 

Lenin was a bastard, but I don't like the idea of destroying monuments, I prefer to put them in the storeroom.

 

You were talking rot about what happened with the US and Serbia, as if we needed another reminder of how twisted the Russian narrative is about what happened there and about certain ethnic and national groups and individuals.

 

Yes, it is better to preserve history than to smash and destroy it.

 

So what? What they were doing? "Dictatorship of the proletariat" is a term that says that power belongs to workers and peasants. That is to the working people. Unlike the "Dictatorship of the Bourgeoisie", where power belongs to the exploiters. The term "Red Terror" means that the Soviet authorities will respond with resistance to the "White Terror", that is, it will resist the interventionists and White Guards.....Have you read Lenin's works? Apparently not. Because otherwise you would not write this nonsense.

 

In other words, do you say that the United States did not bomb Yugoslavia without a UN resolution? ... That is, they did not commit an act of aggression against the sovereign state of Yugoslavia ???...However....Maybe you will dial "bombing Yugoslavia" in Google? And watch videos and pictures?

 

You have a memory like in fish? Do you remember only 2 minutes of your life? Look our dialogue. You said that there were bloody Communists in Russia. When I asked you to show the facts, you wrote nonsense about the Holodomor. What arguments do you expect from me?

 

You have not been able to produce an argument, comrade. Perhaps in time?

 

I've watched Gori Vatra, so I know all that I need to know.

 

Of course there are Nazis/supremacists everywhere, but the extent depends on the culture. Western Ukraine and Croatia were the worse when it came to enthusiasm and atrocities. Since they were both under the Austrian Empire, I wonder if it has to do with feelings of inferiority for being Slavs. They were both pressured to go under the Pope, and then turned on their Slavic brethren who were close to Russia.

 

No, I haven't read any of his books. I began reading one of them but dropped it after a few pages. It was too boring for me. But I you don't have to read his books to know that Red Terror didn't mean resistance. It meant killings, incarceration, taking over other people's property and suppression of all liberties and freedoms you can think of. He has always been a bloodthirsty lunatic. Before, during and after the Revolution. And he has never been shy about it. That is why Ukrainian government is absolutely right about demolishing all of those 1500 monuments to this disgusting mass murderer.

 

Do you know of the atrocities and ethnic cleansing committed against the Serbs in Kosovo by the KLA terrorists? Or were they held from you by the MSM? Miloshevic was murdered before the trial so he couldn't prove his innocence before the world. He was found innocent during someone else's trial, but it's only mentioned in a small paragraph at the end of someone's court proceedings at the Hague.

Here is an example of the lies we were force fed before the bombings - and especially from CNN:



Now how about some more reality, so we can know why Russia rearmed and why we are now being faced with Russia's hypersonic weapons. This is part II of a testimony by the retired Brigadier-General Pierre Marie Gallois. He's ashamed of his involvement in the bombings and killings of civilians in Serbia. He said everything was a lie and deception to break up Yugoslavia.



Much of what he says reminds me of what Washington is doing in Syria. Assad complained at the UN that the US bombed their oil facilities, and that will take years and millions of dollars to put back into service. Basically, the people in these countries are expendable. The sheer evil of my government is appalling.

 

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