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That the Fugitive Slave Act it’s not in the Constitution

 

The fugitive slave act is not. The fugitive slave clause was.

Article 4 section 2 clause 3

And might I add, without that clause the United States would not exist.

 

I've quoted him directly. When you have to call a direct quote a "misrepresentation," you aren't ready to discuss history. As for the Confederate Constitution, I've already addressed that.

 

The fugitive slave clause didn't actually mention slavery or slaves, and the Northern states were already arguing that it, instead, only applied to indentured servants and apprentices. The failure of the Constitution to explicitly protect slavery was one of the complaints of the Confederacy and one of the first things they "corrected."

 

I quoted him directly where he EXPLAINS himself and you just ignore it. Why? Because it doesn’t fit your absurd narrative.

 

This is a hollow response. You yourself have argued that the Confederacy had a path to victory. I'm willing to "honor" those who were conscripted, but there is nothing noble about killing others, even while knowing you risk your own life, in the name of protecting the institution of slavery.

 

The fugitive slave clause had been upheld in countless court decisions including the SCOTUS. But ignoring that for a second you assert that’s one of the things the confederates were up set about.

But again that’s false because the fugitive slave act cemented it as law. Not that it mattered because the north was violating the law AND the constitution AND the SCOTUS. Hence secession.

 

I quoted him directly. You quoted him attempting to backtrack his own words, despite the fact that they are consistent with other primary sources from the time period.

My "absurd narrative" is the South's own narrative, at least until the "Lost Cause" religion took over decades later.

 

It wasn’t slavery they were protecting the constitution.

If the government can simply ignore the law, ignore the Supreme Court and ignore the constitution, then what good is the constitution? Furthermore if they can do that in regards to slavery, what stops them from doing so against the right to free speech or right to firearms or religion and declaring them immoral and refusing to uphold them?

 

It’s not mythology. Jefferson Davis made it clear over and over again.

As he said, “I would rather leave the union with the constitution than to remain in the union without it.”

The war was fought over whether or not the federal government has the right to usurp the authority of the law and constitution. The north said yes and the south said no. There is no higher cause for which to fight.

 

The clause never mentions slaves or slavery. And I know the seceding states were upset about it BECAUSE THEY ****ING REPEATEDLY SAID SO. I can't just ignore history because it doesn't fit your narrative.

The South wanted to preserve slavery. Hence session. They blatantly admitted this. It isn't an accident that the seceding states only spoke of their "Constitutional rights" when it came to slavery.

 

We already spent all that money on trumps golf trips.

 

It, very explicitly, was. It is your word versus theirs. They win.

 

Their "legal" and "Constitutional" concerns were, explicitly, over slavery. There are plenty of higher causes for which to fight than slavery.

 

I can provide you COUNTLESS numbers of quotes from confederates explicitly declaring they were not fighting for slavery.

Even the British knew it wasn’t about slavery:

The Northern onslaught upon slavery is no more than a piece of specious humbug disguised to conceal its desire for economic control of the United States. - Charles Dickens

 

Well played, and that's before Democratic governors and mayors start begging for federal money to pay for the damage Leftist "activist" and "protest" groups wreaked in their cities...

 

Whether you, I or anyone else like it or not slavery was included in the constitution.

You can’t just change the constitution because you don’t like it. You have to go through the amendment process to do so. You sure as hell cant ignore the law, constitution and scotus and then declare yourself with the moral high ground. That’s preposterous.

 

Should be tear down 20% of all the MLK statues, and rename 20% of all the streets and elementary schools? I say 20% because he was a womanizer, so about 80% of him was good and 20% of him was something we should not ever want our children to aspire to. I mean let us be fair now. How can we raise a marital cheater up as a hero? Y'all hate Trump for it, don't you? shameful. tsk, tsk.

See how that works left?

 

Don’t forget MLK was also a homophobe who kicked a black man out of his movement/inner circle because he was gay and wrote an op-Ed responding to a young boy who asked him about being homosexual telling him to pray and god will heal him of his sin.

His stuff definitely needs to come down right?

 

We should judge historical figures as men of their times and not according to our current...oh wait, that's totally opposite what this thread is about!

Carry on.

 

They are still not traitors for the reasons I outlined in my previous Post.

Please read up on the Corwin Amendment before you slander superior military leaders who were defending their own homes against grasping Northern aggressors.

 

I have read it and you have been shown were you are incorrect. It's awful funny that after your were handed an L, you decided that the Northern aggressor were actually right. They took up arms against this country which makes them traitors.

 

No, the traitors were the ones who violated the constitution, the law and the scotus and refused to cease. Also known as the north.

 

Sorry, you can't rewrite history.

 

The current initiative is a false flag.

Nobody on the Left cares about the historical knowledge that is attached to how or why the bases were named. A logical and common sense dialogue is not part of their objective.


The Progressive Elites, AKA: DNC-E and GOP-E, are using ANTIFA and BLM like rented mules. Puppets in front of the Progressive owned news cameras, with brick pallets and all.