Pride Is Still a Sin and the Rainbow Still Belongs to God

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  1. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not wishing at all mate .. why you takn such talk ? To the contrary .. I wish to save your soul help you get through those gates.. .. a process which does not occur by avoiding the search for the key.

    And I have not suggested you will burn .. as you have yet answer the question you are avoiding .. only then can your status be ascertained.

    Shall we try again ? "who is let into His Kingdom" how does one get into the Kingdom .. and is there anything that can bar one from entrance..

    Tell me the true path -- the way - the light ..
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Do you not deviate from the norm ? . .. in any way.. not a member of a religious organization .. have no beliefs or perspectives that "deviate" from the norm ?

    How about sexual proclivities .. no deviance there mate .. beliefs about "sex" and "sexuality" .. nothing to see here ?


    Who be the deviant in the room - calling kettle black ? That was the question put to you ..
     
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    Yes - I think the spelling is Nicaean, but nobody interested in the topic would be confused.

    There were a lot of experts in Christian religion who simply lost out. And, it sounds to me like politics played a notable role.
     
  4. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    The spelling and grammar and spelling police are fun to mess with. I'll go out of my way to use the wing synonym at every opportunity.

    The people who do it for lack of argument I just treat them like they are brainless.
    A lot of demigods too.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    :applause::applause::applause:
     
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    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    As you can see I make my fair share of errors typing and if somebody says I don't know what you meant there I'll happily clear it up.
     
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    Except the word homosexual was added to that verse and does not appear in the original texts

    https://um-insight.net/perspectives/has-“homosexual”-always-been-in-the-bible/

    You are abusing the word of god to injure his creations, while I do not personally believe in the Christian god I would think individuals that do would understand perverting those words for a personal vendetta would be a very serious sin — one that your soul likely wouldn’t recover from.

    Is that a risk you are willing to take for hate?
     
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    This is seems to be a standard demigod type thing that I see and that's been common and Christianity for centuries possibly longer.

    God didn't intend Noble class to Mary commoners or peasants God didn't intend black people to not be slaves of white people God didn't intend for women to be able to wear pants or work in a professional field it seems like people say God doesn't like what they don't like and they're just blaming God for it or trying to add some clout to whatever their opinion is.
     
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    The rainbow is physics, how light is separated in the reflective properties of the electromagnetic spectrum to display it's different wavelengths, each having it's own color (or something like that, I'm no physicist).

    Nature is responsible, and Nature is God. Nature also created gay people and gay animals.

    If you don't like Gay people, then you don't like nature, and if you don't like nature, you don't like God.

    I see no other way to interpret your view based on my pantheistic view.

    I see my view as superior because it allows for harmony of our differences, yours does not, yours fans the flames of intolerance and hatred.

    Yours assumes things about God which are arrogant to presume, apparently the work product of mortal men of antiquity.

    Therefore, my view is more humble, more tolerant, more harmonious, and by that measure, must be closer to God.

    Now, one can claim I lack humility for making that claim, which is fine, I am not perfect, but, given your post, I feel compelled to express it.
     
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    RHE.
     
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    This is a whole lot to digest.

    If ‘he’ created people perfect in his image, then God must have been a hermaphrodite. He must have created both men and women in his image, so he must have had both manly and womanly bits.

    How do you know that God wasn’t a homosexual? Who has actually ever spoken to this supreme deity and heard him say ‘Homosexuality bad, evil, depraved …’ The bottom-line is, it is mankind providing the words of God.

    If this ‘God’ really hates sin and not the person, why on earth did he wipe everybody off the face of the planet, save one family. And just what kind of sinning did animals do? It seriously sounds like a dictator committing mass murder.

    Are you going to assert that the over 6 million people who died as a result of covid were a bunch of sinners?

    Kleptomania is a choice, homosexuality isn’t.

    The story of Noah’s ark is just a story and in no way can it be true and I think this has already been explained to you. Have you ever heard of inbreeding?

    You are using ‘God’ to promote your own opinions about sin and homosexuality. To me it’s just preaching hate using religion as the basis. You are defining what sin is and telling people how to regard others and defining the meaning of symbols like a rainbow. The rainbow symbolizes many different things to many people. To me they are absolutely beautiful to look at after a rainstorm. If gay people, or the NHS, or the Irish want to use a rainbow to symbolize something, why not? Who cares if people are gay and how people choose to engage in sex. Does it really matter? The church does currently support homosexuality. I went to a gay marriage 5 years ago in our local church and the vows were lovely — you know two people promising to love and cherish each other … The minister didn’t mention sin, depravity, etc.

    I really find it terrible that you are willing to condemn your fellow man because they choose to love differently than you. Is it such a terrible thing to be different and choose a different lifestyle by having a same-sex partner? Is that really a sin?

    If there is a God, then this God of yours is the most hateful being ever.

    Does the bible not tell people to love one another? So is it love one another unless you are gay?

    Are you just looking for people to support your views only? I find your views to be totally abhorrent.
     
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    You're mixing yourself up. The problem resides in promoting sexual deviancy as the norm, or in this case, promoting evil as good. Were it right, good and true, they'd not have to lie about it by cloaking it in the false guise of a gay and alternate lifestyle, and adorn it with rainbows. Dawns are gay, city and country life are alternate lifestyles, and the rainbow is a visual cornucopia in the sky. And were it a matter of personal conduct, unbothersome outside itself, they'd not have demanded the perversion of the covenant of marriage, parade sexual debauchery down main street, promote the facade in public discourse, demand unfettered access to the nations children in public schools, destroy businesses who wish not to participate, demand men in dresses have access into womens baths, or make womens sports accept men in lipstick. No it is not demure and kind. It is self serving, vicious and has no regard for boundaries or standards of virtue or even basic decency. That is the beasts nature, mate.
     
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    Who is mixed up soul here - who is the one promoting Evil as Good ? You claim to be the arbiter of good and evil ... evil being anything that deviates from your perspective .. and you demonize people that do not share your perspective .. demonize and marginalize . and who knows what else you want to do to them .. for sure one of those in the group chanting "Burn Her" back in the good old days .. that you would like to hearken back.

    This is pure evil .. in its most vile form .. is yourself you see burning in the mirror mate .. you that is all mixed up ..not me.
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    Then who are you to pass judgment? You should take your own advice, leave what is yours to fall apart, and cease projecting your fears on me. I will judge for myself.
     
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    You started out crying "You are mixed up and Confused" when I called out your passing judgement on others.. wanting to burn at the stake .. those who disagree with your perspective. and now you cry "your passing judgement on me"

    If holding up a mirror .. is "passing judgement" .. then I suppose I am guilty .. but this is not "projecting" anything .. and you are welcome to judge what ever you wish .. You want to burn heretics at the stake . those who deviate from what ever cult it is you belong to .. you go ahead .. just don't include me in your party of stone throwers... all deviant's themselves .. calling kettle black.
     
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    Where was that ever stated or suggested by anyone?
     
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    You think I have the keys to the kingdom of Heaven? I do not. Only God knows as He looks upon the heart of each person. None get to Heaven except through what Jesus did on and after the Cross. All individuals who ever lived who lived according to the best light God showed them during their lives and this included all before the cross who did not live in Israel and those after who never knew Christianity. As long as they lived according to what they were shown by God however they saw Him, Jesus grace will save them too. It is the people who have heard of Christianity and God who then reject Him who have no prayer of salvation
     
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    You quoted statements that did not specify particular acts. It just made a broad suggestion that there is immorality. Everyone knows that's true, but isn't the issue.

    Plus, you cite an individual who had NO MORTAL IDEA that same sex orientation is natural.

    So, we have a SC justice today who believes oral sex needs to be made a criminal offense.

    Is THAT what Paul was talking about??
     
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    Serious question......

    How many converts have you gotten on here so far?
     

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