Prison or a Pardon?

Discussion in 'Opinion POLLS' started by Shiva_TD, May 17, 2017.

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Will Trump fight removal from office or voluntarily resign?

  1. He'll fight removal from office and should be prosecuted and sent to prison.

    60.0%
  2. He'll voluntarily resign for the benefit of the United States and should be pardoned.

    40.0%
  1. The Mandela Effect

    The Mandela Effect Well-Known Member

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    Pulled it from Wiki:

    110 emails were classified at the time she sent them and what this amount's to is "she didn't know any better" even though someone serving as SOS should darn well know better.

    I am claiming the same thing more or less will result in this Trump case because the government as a whole is corrupt. (because as I said the goal is a conflict with Russia.)

    It's also funny people trust the main stream media when they are owned by some of the largest businesses in the world. It's like trusting big Oil that global warming isn't real.
     
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  2. Bob0627

    Bob0627 Well-Known Member

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    Correct, always stolen from the backs of hard working citizens who are indoctrinated into believing it's their duty as patriotic citizens to "pay their fair share".
     
  3. Shiva_TD

    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    In Senate hearings Comey acknowledged that none of the emails in question were identified as having any classified contents and that a person trained in security procedures would assume no classified materials were contained in the email. That's 100% accurate because I worked with classified materials on military aircraft programs for at least half of my career. The "emails' contained classified information but were not "classified" emails because they weren't identified as classified emails.

    Clinton was sorry for the fact that she'd used a private email server because she didn't know the potential security and political problems related to it's use. It had never come to light with the prior Bush administration that extensively used a private email server (owned by the Republican National Committee) and also had emails with classified information in them (e.g. some of former SOS Colin Powell's private email contained classified information). .

    The claim was the media wanted to start a conflict with Russia and that's absolute nonsense.

    How about people check the sources of the main stream media which keeps the main stream media honest for the most part but we bust them when they lie or mislead the public. Some of the outlets are better than others and people learn that if they do any research into what's being reported.
     
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    RPA1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    'she didn't know' is no excuse.

    Got a link?

    No one is doing that...unfortunately.
     
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    Rumor and accuasations are the definition of evidence for Democrats now a days.
     
  6. The Mandela Effect

    The Mandela Effect Well-Known Member

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    People have gone out and checked out many story's the Main stream media has run and found them to be false. The Iraq has WMD story was a CIA/Bush/MSM claim that turned out to be a dirty lie. I could provide others if you want but I get the feeling unless it's fact checked by the very same Main stream media then you will buy it hook line and sinker. I do my own thinking and don't buy a story just because someone says it true. It often rubs people wrong but at this point I don't care as the lies have piled too high for me to stand.

    I highly doubt you handled classified information and if you did it wasn't special program level like what Hillary did. My father handled classified information related to nuclear reactors and he along with others that have top secret information could not have put ANY of what they know in an unsecured email and sent it to anyone without going to jail for it. (If the government discovered it that is)

    I made two claims actually that Trump is an actor of a big money faction and that the Deep state backed media is hoping for some conflict be it direct or indirect against Russia.

    Ron Paul has covered this topic a number of times and a number of other's have as well. I can't help but to think they might be right the more the drum beating against Russia gets blasted in the headlines. It reminds me of what happens in heart's of iron 4 as you try and justify a war goal even against a weaker nation. McCarthy would be in heaven if he was here to see what is going on now with the media claiming that Russia is trying to become the USSR and that the united States is a satellite state of Putin though Trump being in the white house. As though our CIA is helpless and our NSA can't do anything right.

    I think it's more likely that the US media influenced by the established government would be trying to roll out propaganda to start a war than I would that the Russians managed to in there much weaker state than back in the 1960's when they were the very powerful USSR to do what the media claims such as:

    1) Hack all the voting booths under the NSA nose and turn it over to Trump.

    2) Manage to buy off 100's of people even remotely connected to Trump and those within the NSA, CIA and FBI that might have known something before hand.

    3) Actually make the kind of payments needed to own Trump and escape the watchful eyes of the CIA, NSA and FBI. Unless they have tons' of people on the inside who managed to keep it all blocked up until after Trump won.

    4) Actually beat the whole Main Stream media establishment and even possibly have insiders there as well promoting Trump as paid Russian agent's.

    People make fun of 9/11 government did it story's because of how hard it would be to pull off yet Russia somehow can just do it all while the helpless CIA, NSA and FBI are powerless. Do you know how much harder it would actually be for Russia to do all of this when back in the McCarthy era they were much more powerful and could only have dreamed at being this successful?

    Maybe I will end up eating my words on the vast Russian plot to steal the election but looking at this from a purely objective view point than a emotional view that comes from unlimited nationalism this is how I see it.
     

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