Pro choice people eventually become pro life

FoxHastings said: ↑
OK, then women have all the more right to have it taken out! Afterall, according to you, it isn't HERS Why TF should she sustain someone else's life, NO one else has to do that

Sarcasm alert for righties....How DARE that woman IMPRISON another PERSON in her body!! That's KIDNAPPING! False imprisonment!! How dare she take away that "person's" right to move freely through society!!!

If , as YOU said, it isn't hers then why TF should she have to take care of it?

Answer the question if you are so sure it isn't hers:

OK, then women have all the more right to have it taken out! Afterall, according to you, it isn't HERS Why TF should she sustain someone else's life, NO one else has to do that

 

So much easier to kill a person when you give them an alternate name isn't it. Cockroach, gook, ZEF.

 

What who said? A post you are responding to might be helpful

 

In the context of abortion when life begins means when does the life that is a fertilized egg change into a baby. That is when abortion loses support among the vast majority of people. First big mind change is at end of first trimester and the second is around twenty weeks. After that only hard core pro choice people remain who don't think it's a baby until birth and I guess cutting of the umbilical cord which officially severs the baby from the mother so it's no longer just an appendage as you earlier said.

 

When did I say the baby "isn't hers"? Quote please.

 

No, I don't have angst, and apparently you don't even know what it is, but I guess someone has to worry bout the what-ifs....

Basic amenities like..... what? A dry place to sleep, food & beverage, medical attention, facilities. Apparently some of the facilities need updating. But of course, the multiday trek through open areas in harsh weather, sleeping on the ground, using the bushes to relieve themselves and eating out of their bags and backpacks are all considered high end amenities. Jayzus…..

Your automatic belief that someone would molest children is pretty sad. Could it happen? Anything is possible, but considering they have had background checks done, they aren't your average child molesters wandering in off the streets. There have been allegations, but I've yet to find validated cases. According to your thoughts, the women and even the men are not safe from the slavering sex crazed workers. Just because it's foremost in your mind, for reasons I won't begin to guess at, does not mean it is an existing problem.

How many workers/officers per X of detained immigrants? As to your 'cages', apparently you WOULD prefer to let them wander wherever with no oversight, but if one should get hurt, we both know who you would blame, eh? I don't have a couple of dozen plus kids wandering around, and if you do, then I would like to know how you keep them all organized and within sight at all times.

I haven't blamed anyone, so you wasted some bandwidth there along with the Republican BS which is also not applicable.

Since you think that the children are suffering, I hope that your anger towards the people who dragged them through who knows how many miles, who may or may not even be their parents, knowing that they would be held at detention centers,is just as strong

 

I realize you have trouble defending your claims - perhaps if you can't find a defense for you claim - it is because your claim is flawed.

This is no reason to make up falsehoods... it was you who failed to answer numerous questions - not I. You just didn't like the answer because you could not defend your hypocritical position.

 

If I had trouble, I would make long posts, take cheap shots, move the goalpost, and avoid direct questions. My position needs no defense. Please explain how it is hypocritical.

 

FoxHastings said: ↑
OK, then women have all the more right to have it taken out! Afterall, according to you, it isn't HERS Why TF should she sustain someone else's life, NO one else has to do that

Sarcasm alert for righties....How DARE that woman IMPRISON another PERSON in her body!! That's KIDNAPPING! False imprisonment!! How dare she take away that "person's" right to move freely through society!!!


If , as YOU said, it isn't hers then why TF should she have to take care of it?

Answer the question if you are so sure it isn't hers:

OK, then women have all the more right to have it taken out! Afterall, according to you, it isn't HERS Why TF should she sustain someone else's life, NO one else has to do that

""""At some point during pregnancy it's not your body, it's another human being

Josephwalker, Today at 12:03 PM


Now, care to actually address the post you quoted??

 

FoxHastings said: ↑
HEY! Any Pro-"lifers" in here who love what is happening to that "precious life" in the border states????

Death , disease, more than likely raped by guards, kept in cages, with no basic ammenities…….

Are you going to blame Obama or raise a stink about what is happening NOW under Trump's administration to those children.....(who Repubs label "criminals" but call them "precious life" when discussing abortion)

Your lack of it is.

OMGAWD just OHMGAWD....you think the only way to supervise and care for children is to put them in cages!!!! Oh, I hope you don't have kids!!!

And DUH, WHO has keys(access) to these children? Just the tooth fairy?

It is the height of "naivete" to think imprisoned children with NO outside oversight are not sexually abused..

The extent that people will ignore the suffering of children is sad...and a lot of other things I'm not allowed to say here...

No, I don't blame desperate people for fleeing awful conditions in the hope that when they reach the "World's Greatest Country" they will have a chance at a decent life and be treated like human beings.

The horrible conditions those children are experiencing NOW is the sole responsibility of the country that has imprisoned them.


Your naivete concerning vulnerable children with NO public oversight is a "head in the sand" issue.

I think priests may have been vetted too but it hardly stopped their raping children and having their acts covered up by "god's " people.

Nurses may be vetted , too, but it hasn't stopped them molesting vulnerable patients.

Sorry, I live in the real world where vulnerable children have always been abused.

Just because a 6 year old doesn't call his lawyer and the media and report her/his rape doesn't mean it doesn't happen....why do they want so much privacy for those institutions?? No cameras allowed!! No oversight!


And those who scream loudest "all life is precious" when they want to take away women's right to their own bodies are leading the pack in a total lack of compassion for actual BORN children

 

pro-life people are often pro-choice - it's the anti-choice people you have to worry about that want the government to choose for you

 

interesting...

"Religious school grads likelier to have abortions"

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/31048153/...ligious-school-grads-likelier-have-abortions/

 

You really believe that? It must be true it was on the Internet with a totally “unbiased source”

 

What I stated is absolutely true.
Did you bother to read the links? Sperm is living. It has a head, body, and tail. It dies quickly if not kept warm.
You just choose a line in the sand to declare some life, while there are many many points along the way(line in the sand) that can be declared life.
Sperm and eggs are not a child or a baby, but neither is a zygote. The line you wish to choose.
Just like a seed is not a flower. Or a seed that has just germinated is NOT a flower.

 

Exactly, pro choice not = to pro abortion.
Something the non choice folks don't seem to understand.

 

Can't be true, since most of America doesn't want R v W overturned. So most of America is for abortion to some point.
And life can't begin, unless the life of the sperm hasn't began or the life of the ova hasn't began. Both of those need to be viable and good life in order to fertilize.
Some men shoot blanks, as they say. Dead sperm.

As far as when it changes to a baby, when it's born. Or perhaps when it's viable outside the womb.

 

Your post are not long but you do take many cheap shots, move the goal posts, avoid questions and talk over information that conflicts with your perspective.

I have explained your hypocrisy numerous times. In the past you have stated the State should be allowed to force one person to be punished for the consequences of a unilateral decision (opinion) of another with respect to an unintended pregnancy.

Now you are claiming that no opinion should should matter with respect to an unintended pregnancy ... hands off that womb.

 

You do realize that ZEF is an abbreviation of the three stages of in womb development: zygote, embryo and fetus, right? A short hand way to denote the proper terms for all the stages of development. Do you have an issues with the use of the proper stages of development, or do you prefer to misuse other words for emotional impact?

 

Very simple. Follow the up thread using the arrows next to the names.

 

Why do you remove the quote tags of your posts? And how do you manage to keep the post arrow?

 

Absolutely. At some point their is another human being in her body and she has no right to kill it. Pretty simple stuff really.

 

True it's a bias source. The Hill leans left and it was a democrat pollster but they still reported the uncomfortable result that most women are anti abortion.

 

Don't know what you mean....my posts look just like other posts...

 

And once again you confirm you are in the very small percentage of people that believe that. I get it. Why repeat it over and over?

 

Not really. At the top of a lot of your posts is "FoxHastings said:" with an arrow beside it, but it's not in a green quote box. Everyone else you quote, has their quote in a green quote box.