Pro-life activists who uncovered organ harvesting ordered to pay $2.3 million

I said the "sale of" and I was not mistaken.

 

Posting a "fact sheet" from the very idiots from the OP that have been completely debunked and bitch-slapped in multiple courts as your "GOTCHA!!!" has to be the funniest thing I've seen this week...

 

So go ahead and prove me wrong, post where the for profit sale of fetal tissue IS legal, I'll wait. Dont stand me up.

 

And keep waiting, evidently. @Phyxius did you happen to notice the specific laws are cited? How long will i wait, should I grab a snickers? The "funniest thing I have seen all week" will likely be your lack of a response to "back" your post.

 

You can quote all you want, but the fact remains that PP was cleared of breaking it, and the idiots trying to frame them wound up getting kicked in the 'nads in court...

 

OK, so you cant disprove for profit fetal tissue sale violates Federal law? I did not think so. Post a ROTFL emoji all you want. I roll around laughing at your claim

 

Prove PP sold fetal tissue for profit. Fifteen investigations say that they didn't, and one of those indicted the idiot fraudsters instead.

 

if someone has a 6 year old that dies, yes, the parents are free to donate their organs, same for a fetus - why would it be different?

you prefer they be considered medical waste and sent to the incinerator vs helping other children?

 

UGGGHA DUH...if your liver is removed is it still your liver or did it magically become someone else's ???

Nonsensical statement...

 

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Any pro-choicer who actually believes that is lying to themselves.

 

FoxHastings said: ↑
UGGGHA DUH...if your liver is removed is it still your liver or did it magically become someone else's ???

Are you calling me a liar ? LOOKS LIKE IT.

LYING about what?

If your liver is not yours then WHOSE IS IT?

WHY can't you answer that question?

Is it one of those MANY INCONVENIENT questions you avoid?

 

No, FoxHastings. I do not believe you are lying.
Because I don't believe you actually believe the argument you wrote.

Obviously I was not just referring to the liver by itself,
but rather the comparison you made between a liver outside of the womb and a fetus outside of the womb.

 

Then BY DEFINITION you believe she's lying.

 

The God Complex (he "knows" what I believe!!) ...or the ""I am Kaz Who Rules Over Women In My Mind """complex..

No, tissue is tissue, inside or out........and YOU NEVER could answer:

WHOSE LIVER, MENSTRUAL bloodand clots , embryonic tissue, blood, gall bladder is it? Isn't your gall bladder yours?

THE FACT THAT YOU CAN'T ANSWER THAT QUESTION IS WHY YOU SEEM TO HAVE TO MAKE THINGS UP IN YOUR MIND...





BTW, this is another example of your OP failing miserably so you seem to have to go off on some tangent...but that doesn't help....your thread failed and that fact can't be hidden ....

 

I actually did answer the question previously, but a mod deleted the post.


FoxHastings, your argument is that a woman should have as much control of her liver after it is taken out of her body without her permission, as she should over her dead fetus once it is outside her body.

I mean seriously, do I even need to bother putting up an argument against that?

 

WHOA! I DID NOT SAY "WITHOUT HER PERMISSION".

There ya go AGAIN...claiming I said something I NEVER SAID ...and having NO PROOF I DID...

The rest of your post is nothing since you started the post with a GROSS "misrepresentation" of what I said...

 

What's the matter KAZ...at a loss for (accurate) words ? ???

 

That's pretty much totally irrelevant to this argument, so why did you bring it up?

 

GOODGAWD! I didn't bring it up ...YOU DID! HERE:


Post # 66 KAZ: """"FoxHastings, your argument is that a woman should have as much control of her liver after it is taken out of her body without her permission, as she should over her dead fetus once it is outside her body.


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However , for once you are correct....it IS irrelevant because you injected it in a discussion that had NOTHING to do with it...

 

Let's try again with your original question.

YES, they are HER organs/tissue to DONATE …( if one DONATES it is obviously with their permission!!!!!)

The UNanswered question:
WHO ELSE'S WOULD THEY BE ?????

 

Not hers.
It would pretty much be the same if a child in an orphanage died.

And on that subject, if you want to argue the parents should have some say, then shouldn't the father have as much say in this situation as the mother?
(since the organs are no longer inside the mother, and since the organs do contain half of the father's DNA signature)

 

WHOSE ARE THEY ????

So you contend that your parts, liver, heart, tendons, tissues, muscles are not your own !!!

WHOSE ARE THEY ????

WTF !!! ???

WHAT subject ?? Children in orphanages ?? That is SO OFF TOPIC....

NO, we are NOT arguing that..we are discussing something else DESPITE YOU trying to change the subject as much as possible LOL...
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Why? Now you think they are the father's tissue/organs !!???





They are still hers....WHOSE ELSE'S WOULD THEY BE ?

If a body part is removed to be repaired , while it's out of the patient is it no longer theirs?

NO, it is still THEIRS..


The still UNanswered question:WHOSE ELSE'S WOULD THEY BE ???



You seem to always support anything that takes away women's right to their own body...her body belongs to an orphan, it belongs to the father of her fetus, it's the Government's , it's everyone's but hers.....why are you so against women having the same rights you have....



I know the answer but I thought I'd ask anyway....and, as usual, won't expect an answer..

 

Do you admit you brought "permission " into this ?

AND that it has NOTHING to do with what we were discussing?


I didn't bring it up ...YOU DID! HERE:


Post # 66 KAZ: """"FoxHastings, your argument is that a woman should have as much control of her liver after it is taken out of her body without her permission, as she should over her dead fetus once it is outside her body.


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Now, could you show the proof of 'corrupt judges" ?? Oh, I see , something else you claim but can't prove.

Did you have any point here?